1037LikesSchumacher Mi8
08-18-2023, 05:49 AM
#796
Tech Rookie
I do have a photo, but can't upload it yet as haven't posted enough.
08-18-2023, 09:01 AM
#797
I took some pictures of my shocks so you can compare.
Rear fully compressed shocks on middle hole of the tower with 9mm shock shafts and stock plastic spring retainers, no shims under hubs:
With the chassis touching the ground i can still move the tire a little bit but it is not much and the spring retainer is almost touching the shock housing.
Front without spring and spring retainer.
Rear fully compressed shocks on middle hole of the tower with 9mm shock shafts and stock plastic spring retainers, no shims under hubs:
With the chassis touching the ground i can still move the tire a little bit but it is not much and the spring retainer is almost touching the shock housing.
Front without spring and spring retainer.
08-18-2023, 09:21 AM
#798
flip the lower a arm attachment piece upside down?
08-18-2023, 11:44 AM
#799
I've fitted the HGT but have some questions around the new suspension travel.
Initially after fitting I had trouble depressing the suspension so that the chassis touches the bench. To solve this I fitted the thinner alloy shock spring retainers, this allowed more shock travel, but still not enough. Then I removed 1mm from the shock ends and have enough travel so that the chassis can only just be pressed to the bench.
Once chassis is pressed to the bench, there is no excess travel to lift the wheels off the bench.
I'm not using the thin spacer under the hubs, with just the 3mm on top. I think this is not helping the issue.
Firstly, do I need to worry? I'm basing my expectations on what the car was like prior to fitting the HGT. Is this limited shock travel by design? Or have a done something wrong? Interested to hear if any others have similar travel.
Initially after fitting I had trouble depressing the suspension so that the chassis touches the bench. To solve this I fitted the thinner alloy shock spring retainers, this allowed more shock travel, but still not enough. Then I removed 1mm from the shock ends and have enough travel so that the chassis can only just be pressed to the bench.
Once chassis is pressed to the bench, there is no excess travel to lift the wheels off the bench.
I'm not using the thin spacer under the hubs, with just the 3mm on top. I think this is not helping the issue.
Firstly, do I need to worry? I'm basing my expectations on what the car was like prior to fitting the HGT. Is this limited shock travel by design? Or have a done something wrong? Interested to hear if any others have similar travel.
I took some pictures of my shocks so you can compare.
Rear fully compressed shocks on middle hole of the tower with 9mm shock shafts and stock plastic spring retainers, no shims under hubs:
With the chassis touching the ground i can still move the tire a little bit but it is not much and the spring retainer is almost touching the shock housing.
Front without spring and spring retainer.
Rear fully compressed shocks on middle hole of the tower with 9mm shock shafts and stock plastic spring retainers, no shims under hubs:
With the chassis touching the ground i can still move the tire a little bit but it is not much and the spring retainer is almost touching the shock housing.
Front without spring and spring retainer.
Am I interpreting this correct?
If I am .... that makes no sense. You cant go any lower or roll any further once your chassis is On The Ground.
Not only that .... the lower arm pivot balls will only work to a certain degree before binding. If you are not binding then its good.
If Im missing something to what youre asking then I apologize.
But for helpful ideas .... you could put 1mm shims between the shock mount/servo mount and the lower arm.
Dont lengthen the shock, you have to lower the actual lower mount.
Beware - double check your droop and ride height after doing. Make sure you can still droop the arm lower then your setting.
And make sure you have enough spring collar adjustment to get up to ride height.
08-18-2023, 12:49 PM
#800
Yes, but I think that is the same as I am suggesting? The chassis should bottom out and not the shock body, but there is some play so the retainer doesn't hit the shock body when the chassis bottoms out as you can see on my pictures.
So if on his chassis he has to cut the plastic shock ends and run the alloy retainers because the chassis doesn't hit the ground it sounds like there is something wrong? On all the HGT cars I have seen I can push the suspension down and the chassis hits the ground.
Or I have misunderstood the question?
So if on his chassis he has to cut the plastic shock ends and run the alloy retainers because the chassis doesn't hit the ground it sounds like there is something wrong? On all the HGT cars I have seen I can push the suspension down and the chassis hits the ground.
Or I have misunderstood the question?
08-18-2023, 01:04 PM
#801
Is there an advantage when the chassis hits the ground ???
08-18-2023, 02:11 PM
#804
08-18-2023, 04:33 PM
#805
Tech Rookie
Yes, but I think that is the same as I am suggesting? The chassis should bottom out and not the shock body, but there is some play so the retainer doesn't hit the shock body when the chassis bottoms out as you can see on my pictures.
So if on his chassis he has to cut the plastic shock ends and run the alloy retainers because the chassis doesn't hit the ground it sounds like there is something wrong? On all the HGT cars I have seen I can push the suspension down and the chassis hits the ground.
Or I have misunderstood the question?
So if on his chassis he has to cut the plastic shock ends and run the alloy retainers because the chassis doesn't hit the ground it sounds like there is something wrong? On all the HGT cars I have seen I can push the suspension down and the chassis hits the ground.
Or I have misunderstood the question?
Thanks all for the explaination and pictures, very helpful. I now understand that no up travel is needed, just enough for the chassis to touch the ground. It makes more sense now.
I swapped back to the plastic spring retainers and still enough travel.
08-19-2023, 02:08 PM
#806
The wall and the ground are the same: don't let your chassis touch them....
08-19-2023, 08:14 PM
#808
I slam at the wall because my car bottoms out alot...Might be time for some progressive springs...Time for some more mods, just like the krazed mi8....Stay tuned...
08-26-2023, 08:01 PM
#809
