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INSTRUCTION MANUALS:
Vehicle instruction manual: https://cdn.simba-dickie-group.de/do...2-car-tc01.pdf
Formula E body instruction manual: https://cdn.simba-dickie-group.de/do...e-gen2-car.pdf


HOPUPS:

DRIVE TRAIN:
• Universal Prop shaft (TC01): #54975
• Double Cardon Prop Shaft (TC01): #54961
• Aluminum spur gear holder: #54903
• Universal shafts: #54515
• Clamp hex hub: #53570 or #53823
• Double cardan shaft: #42360
Double cardan joints (TRF): #42216 (set) & #42239 (42mm shaft)
• Different Aluminum Drive Cup: #54543
• Steel Bevel Differential Gears: #54540
Aluminum spur gear holder: #54903
• Gear Differential Steel Cross Shaft: #54533


BEARINGS (in MM):
• 3x6x2.5: x2
• 9x5x3: x1
• 9x5 (flanged): x1
• 5x8x2.5: x12
• 5x10x4: x10
• 5x10x3: x2
• 10x15x4: x4

SCREWS:
• 3x5mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x4
• 3x6mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x6
• 3x8mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x18
• 3x10mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x13
• 3x12mm Titanium Hex Head Screws x12
• 3x6mm Titanium Hex Head Countersunk Screws x5
• 3x8mm Titanium Hex Head Countersunk Screws x10
• 3x10mm Titanium Hex Head Countersunk Screws x8


SUSPENSION:
• Suspension arm mounts (rear skid angle): #54787
• Supension arm mounts: #54760
• Stabilizers: #54956
• Aluminum rocker arms: #54955
• TRF big bore shocks: #42354
• TRF works shocks: #84317
• TRF Special shocks: #42102
• Carbon rear crossmember: #54783
• Carbon front crossmember: #54782
• Low friction suspension balls: #54747
• Titanium Coated suspension shaft: #53581
• Flourine supension balls: #53709
• Titanium Coated Shock Shaft: #54043
• Aluminum shock extenders: #54960

WTCC's adjustable suspension Conversion:
Parts needed:
• 3x23mm turnbuckles (x8)
• Yokomo #BM-206
• Awesomatix #P18 AND P19
• TRF 420 front hubs


DIFFERENTIALS:
• One way diff: #54521
• Spool: #54592
• Ball diff: #54522

TURNBUCKLES:
• Front Toe 3x18mm: #54247
• Rear Toe 3x32mm: #54249
• Steering Link 3x42mm:#54250
• Open Face Ball Ends: #54868

MISCELLANEOUS:
• Titanium Screw Set: #47449
• Servo mount screws: #54862
• POM Spacers: #54855
• Carbon front stiffeners: #54962
• Aluminum steering arms: #54958
• Aluminum steering bridge: #54957


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Old 04-27-2020, 01:13 AM
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Tamiya posted lots of photos of the car this morning, together with an August 1st release date.
English product info is not up yet, but it's posted on my blog.

https://kentech.wordpress.com/2020/0...-01-full-info/



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"The gear ratio can be selected from 7.50: 1 to 5.25: 1 by using the separately sold pinion (06 module)"
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Originally Posted by rccartips
"The gear ratio can be selected from 7.50: 1 to 5.25: 1 by using the separately sold pinion (06 module)"
Drive train looks fully identical to the TB-05.
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Originally Posted by Kevin CBR
Don't see this car having class growth like Euro Truck. This kit will probably be around $ 300.00 here in the US and unless they make it a can't touch spec class, by the time you put decent screws (hex instead of phillips and why not aluminum / titanium) then eventually the aluminum shocks, aluminum rocker arms, aluminum steering, a real motor mount with heat sink, carbon reinforced tub, arms and braces, universal cvd's, heavy duty drive shafts..... you will have a $ 600.00 RC car that probably can't handle more than a 21.5 or 17.5 motor. Looks to be a very expensive niche toy car.

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You've essentially described Tamiya's traditional business model too a "T". pun intended
Put out a base model and then make a premium on hop-up parts. Its been one of my favorite parts of the Hobby for the last 20 yrs!
Mini class started the same way.
Contrary to your speculation, I think this chassis has the potential to blow away the Euro Truck blip. Formula E has far more international exposure, and only stands to continue growing as Electric Car technology advances.
If its marketed right, this could be the new on-road entry class that stimulates more interest in the hobby.
As for handling more than a 17.5 motor, Why not? A TT02 simply needs all of the plastic drive shafts and cups replaced (aforementioned hop-ups) and it can become a capable enough speed run car. I've successfully been bashing one with low turn modified motors for a few years without any issues. I don't see how it would be a problem for this new TC-01 chassis.
Niche? Maybe yes, true, but a pretty cool and popular niche me thinks.....
Expensive? As much as you want it to be
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Straight from Tamiya site Link

Interestingly price went up to 30,580 yen (base price 27,800 yen)

Not a fan of shim based camber adjustment
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Originally Posted by kentech
Tamiya posted lots of photos of the car this morning, together with an August 1st release date.
English product info is not up yet, but it's posted on my blog.

https://kentech.wordpress.com/2020/0...-01-full-info/


i saw an August release date. That’s a bit of a let down
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Originally Posted by Speed Chaser
Straight from Tamiya site Link

Interestingly price went up to 30,580 yen (base price 27,800 yen)

Not a fan of shim based camber adjustment
Agreed. You can't adjust camber without also adjusting track width.
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Now that I look at it I wonder if the damper setup is from the Ta06 it looks very similar to it may be components are compatible.
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Originally Posted by PizzaDude
Why would you need this?
seems to be the m07 suspension used to mount the arms and create toe in as well as the simple use of turnbuckles to create toe...does this make sense to anyone, kindly enlighten me. Thanks
You can use this to change track width, roll center, arm sweep.
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Originally Posted by simple
You've essentially described Tamiya's traditional business model too a "T". pun intended
Put out a base model and then make a premium on hop-up parts. Its been one of my favorite parts of the Hobby for the last 20 yrs!
Mini class started the same way.
Contrary to your speculation, I think this chassis has the potential to blow away the Euro Truck blip. Formula E has far more international exposure, and only stands to continue growing as Electric Car technology advances.
If its marketed right, this could be the new on-road entry class that stimulates more interest in the hobby.
As for handling more than a 17.5 motor, Why not? A TT02 simply needs all of the plastic drive shafts and cups replaced (aforementioned hop-ups) and it can become a capable enough speed run car. I've successfully been bashing one with low turn modified motors for a few years without any issues. I don't see how it would be a problem for this new TC-01 chassis.
Niche? Maybe yes, true, but a pretty cool and popular niche me thinks.....
Expensive? As much as you want it to be
It's an interesting exercise in chassis engineering. Entry class? Not likely, it's too intimidating visually and mechanically for someone who has never driven or worked on an R/C car before. Even with a little experience some people are put off by the pushrod suspension and tight packaging of the chassis. I fear this will suffer the same fate as the F201 did.
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The design with the inboard shocks and the way the electrics are placed makes for a very centralized weight distribution - more so than any other TC on the market (if you ignore all the hunks of plastic). I love it.
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Originally Posted by Papi
I think this is TT02S suspension mount, posted here by accident.

I'm still wondering how transmission is done. Simple way, as in DB02 (without complicated central central gearbox) or complicated as in F201, with extra gears?

Released photos and and videos don't show much..
I'm sure it will be with angled input gears, which I think Tamiya have done before on other cars.
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Agreed. You can't adjust camber without also adjusting track width.
To be fair, camber adjustments always affect track width. But adjusting on the lower arm will have a "larger" effect. I'm not a fan of this solution either. You can't isolate camber etc. when the rear lower arm position is controlling all the geometry.
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I'm looking forward to this one if the price is reasonable. Prices on some Tamiya stuff in the US has gotten crazy over the past couple of years.
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At Y30,800 for an almost all-plastic kit, I'd rather get a TA-07RR or something else if it was me. Tamiya will be milking consumers again by offering an "upgraded" version of the TC-01 with just a few parts in it and raise the cost unjustifiably. Offering versions like a Pro, Pro 2, R, or whatever they want to call it then finally coming out with an MS or TRF version which should be offered right away in the first place.
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