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Old 01-16-2020, 09:32 AM
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As seen past weekend at the IFMAR World Championship in UK and at some earlier teasers, YES Awesomatix is working on a 1/12 scale car 😎

The car shown in the attached pictures is the very first prototype and in an early stage of the project which is called "A12".
All the parts were finished just some day prior the WC, which allowed the team only 2-3 days testing.
It was a big "risk" to send the drivers with a completely new designed car directly to the most competitive race of the year.
But in our opinion this is the only way for proper testing and checking of the concept. Only during a real and actuall competition can be seen where are some issues and where parts need to be improved.

The team collected very usefull data during this race and got an idea where they need to adjust some parts and features.
Also the results were quite OK for the first rollout with this chassis!

SPEC class overall:
5th Max Mächler

Modified class overall:
18th Freddy Südhoff
19th Domenick Lia
23rd Sam Isaacs
29th Marc Bösiger

Below are some pictures of Max's car after the WC.
Awesomatix already started the evaluation of the collected data and will work on further improvements to make the car ready for the future start of the production.
This will take for sure some more time, but it's needed to redefine the product before it can be released to customers.
A clear date when the A12 will be ready can't be given by now as it depends on future tests.

As soon as we have more news about the A12 we will let you know.😊







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Intrigued!! Would like to see without the electronics - that rear pod, er, lack thereof looks interesting. Wondering how the damping works out back. Front kingpin setup looks unique as well.
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No gimbled rear pod. Instead there are two long legs on the chassis plate that supports the rear pod. There are two stiffeners on the top that just screws in at the front, then it looks like you screw grub screws in one of the many holes on top to adjust the spring rate. Not sure how the damping is handled. Looks very interesting, I haven't run 1/12 scale in over 5 years, maybe it's time to start up again!

EDIT: Top plate is not a stifferner, it's purely there to set spring rate and ride height. Put in a grub screw towards the front and it's a low spring rate, move it back to stiffen it up. And also use grub screw to set ride height. Pretty cool.
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My $$$$$'s are waiting
Bring it to them market sooner rather than later please
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Id be willing to bet some money that the front king pin is a oil filed dampener.
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Great job max
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So no reactive caster?
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Cool, see some Precision Race Cars , PRC - LR7 DNA.
as nitrodude stated perhaps a new take on a Dampertube for the front end
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Very cool design, eager to try one out! Also love the inline battery!
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Originally Posted by aracefan View Post
Intrigued!! Would like to see without the electronics - that rear pod, er, lack thereof looks interesting. Wondering how the damping works out back. Front kingpin setup looks unique as well.
Lack? Lol, the whole chassis IS the rear pod!

Genius. I also see that the front arms are super thick. Glad to see that as those barrel king pins are only bolted down on one side with no bracing.
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Having had the opportunity to have a small look over one of the cars at the Worlds... it's pretty impressive. Basically on this car, there was a small rotary damper behind the battery across the chassis (from the underside view, the different coloured section with a grub screw ahead of the pod), that has small drag links connecting to the 'pod'. You can just see these on the underside view.
The 'Pod' itself is pivoting on the two central forward screw holes (they are pivot balls), whilst the front arms are mounted to the battery tray. In effect, the pod pivot is in front of the battery...
Still not 100% on the front end, as don't believe the strap sets the camber like on the Schumachers, but could be wrong. And no reactive castor either.
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Still not 100% on the front end, as don't believe the strap sets the camber like on the Schumachers, but could be wrong. And no reactive castor either.
From ErHard to TryHard:

Reactive caster seems is not a must. Schumacher doesnt have one.
But you can not go without caster and camber.
Camber is (only) needed to avoid coning (to my opinion) You need very little, when wheel guide is free of play. (e.g. Schumacher 1°-1.5°) When wheels are under side load and every play and stiffness is loaded to one side in corner, true camber is 0°.
Caster is not negligible. On Schumacher, 4° seems good.

How does caster/camber happen at A12?

I assume, the washer under king pin is not flat but wedged. Depending on position and wedge angle camber and caster are done in one part. Depending on rotating the wedge-washer, you can have pure camber or pure caster and everything in between. To change the amount, you must change washer. On the washer, there is a mark, indicating where it is rotated.



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Id be willing to bet some money that the front king pin is a oil filed dampener.
agreed. The two ends of the “tube” definitely look to be threaded caps - obvious spots for seals and the like. with the kingpin being a shock shaft, penetrating both ends and secured to the lower arm somehow - in one of the shots you can definitely see some kind of fixing - obscured by the rim.
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Intrigued!! Would like to see without the electronics - that rear pod, er, lack thereof looks interesting. Wondering how the damping works out back. Front kingpin setup looks unique as well.





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