Xrayskid

Hi


By running the front pivot block lower than the front rear pivot block what efect will it have on the car?


Cheers

polesitter61

iTrader: (4)

Usually will make the car a bit tighter when entering the corner, it won't let the weight transfer to the front of the car as quickly

Rick Worth

iTrader: (1)

Kick up is when the front block is higher then the rear. When the rear is higher it is anti dive.

Zaner24

iTrader: (19)

Makes more steering, and also makes the steering a little more agressive into the corner. Gotta look at it this way, the hingepin is angled down at the front and higher in the rear, so you're taking away caster.

polesitter61

iTrader: (4)

Actually Zaner it's the opposite, it's almost like running a stiffer spring in the front end, but doing it with the geometry instead of spring rate. It will make the car more stable on entry because the weight transfer is slowed down.

Slotmachine

iTrader: (4)

Wouldn't that be like thickening the dampening not the spring tension?

Andrew Gray

iTrader: (4)

Front kick-up generally makes the car easier to drive, especially on bumpy tracks, and will give more steering entering a turn. However, you will loose on-power (exit) steering.

zipp

so kick-up is also known as pro-dive??

if that's so, then kick-up would increase front traction into the corner, and enable tighter turns, much like running softer springs in the front, is that right?

never really got this right..

polesitter61

iTrader: (4)

Slot - you are right, it would be more like running a thicker shock oil than a stiffer spring. The problem with this thread is the termanology (spell?) that is being used. The original poster said he was running kick up, but the way he explains the pin holders locations is actually "anti-dive". Anti meaning that the suspension is resisting the weight transfer.....basically Anti-weight transfer. If you check out the Team Xray forum at www.teamxray.com there is a really in depth article about this topic with everything you need to know for the front and rear of the car.

teamgp

There is a good explanation of anti-dive and pro-dive (kickup) in the New XRAY T2 Setup Book that can be applied to any RC car. It contains an updated version of the article on the XRAY forum.

teamgp

Correct. It also increases overall caster which improves corner exit steering.