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Where are people measuring temps on these motors? Can or stator?

Its so ventilated I'm not sure the can temp means a whole lot.

I ran mine at an initial 50deg timing and it got hot fast. Seems to actually be faster down 40-45 anyway but is still pretty toasty after 6 min... But as was mentioned before apparently timing ring timing may not be too accurate.

Its not a slow motor that's for sure but I certainly don't feel like I'm cheating because its so insanely fast or anything.

Mallard

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So one fill me in here.....what is the "1s".....does that have anything to do with the battery used...trying to figure out what the "short stack" is all about....looking to run in a 1/10 scale 4wd car dirt oval....can the motor handle that and what is the advavtange/disadavantage???... 2s batteries used....thank guys for filling me in!

Mudcat981

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This is from Trinity: The original design was for "1S" batteries, but then the team drivers tested it with the 2S vehicles and found it was awesome and the best performer in the 4D's.

I can say for a fact this motor is great in 2WD 2S, and others here have stated that it performs great. I have not heard anyone use it in 4WD yet.

When I get my new TLR 22T 2.0 I will use it in that vehicle too.

Mallard

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Anyone used it in a 4wd 1/10 scale or have an opinion?

JEFFs SC10

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How's this motor torque wise vs Reedy and R1 Wurks?

I run a Speed Passion now and it seems pretty weak.

dbowen

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The motor still has TONS of torque that is why it is faster bc it has more RPM without giving up the torque which ='s more horsepower in general. These motors are deff faster than the Reedy and I think are just as fast if not faster than the R1 (The R1 is a short stack design as well btw so it is very similar to the D4 1S) when geared right, which I have found a 5.43 final drive ratio to be the best on this motor with around 50*'s of timing.

And to answer the other guys question about using them in 4WD I think they would work but these short stack motors run very hot compared to the regular D4 and Killshot. Therefore I wouldn't recommend running it in 4WD unless you were to put a fan on the motor bc I think it would run to hot. Just my opinion tho.

WRXnItUp

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Sorry if this is off topic, but, would anyone run this in a 22SCT 2.0? If so, would you turn down the timing, or gear down a bit?

Thanks!

dbowen

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Yes I think this motor would be amazing in SCT. Would you be running MM? I would run around a 7-7.5 FDR. I know on my SC10 I ran either 75/28 or 78/29 (so either a 6.96 or 6.99) and I noticed with the SS motors I geared down a tooth on my buggy so therefore prob 75/27 (7.22) or 78/28 (7.24). These motors still have plenty of torque.

Mudcat981

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Turn the timing down to 40-45*.

WRXnItUp

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I have not tried MM with the SCT yet. The track is med-high bite, so that might be something to try eventually. My buddy ran 76/25 (7.39/SCT) in his SCT and he said it came off around 160 degrees.

Thanks, I will try that!

JEFFs SC10

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Thanks for the clarification, I'll be ordering one soon. Need more powah to clear the jumps!

dbowen

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Ok so this motor is BALLISTICALY fast I mean I can hang with Mod guys down the straight away and might just be one of the fastest stock cars at our track right now, but it gets so HOT! I am running a B5M at 69/33 right at 50* timing and after 7 mins I'm over 160*. While that is not over heating it by any means I still don't like it and would rather be around 140-150. Is my only option putting a fan on the motor to drop temps? Bc I really don't want to do that but if I have to I will.

It seems as tho these short stack motors just naturally run hotter bc my buddy was running and R1 and he said 160-170 is what he always runs and its no big deal...

1/4milecrazy

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Try 31/69

dbowen

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I tried 69/32 and it was soooo much slower than 33 and the temps didn't drop that much, so wouldn't 31 be even slower than 32? I mean I can try it I just think it would be really slow, although I dropped 2 teeth to a 26 on my SCT and it seemed to be faster than with 75/28 so maybe you could be right but it just doesn't make sense lol

Mudcat981

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Can you try a 72/34, this would FDR 5.50, I run my TLR 22 at 5,48 and it is perfect.

Also how much drag brake are you using, if you have timing set in your ESC turn it off or to 0 degrees. You cannot run ESC timing with these motors.