141LikesTeam Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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10-06-2015, 11:52 PM
I thought I read somewhere buried in Red RC's coverage that the "salary/Factory" Associated guys were running prototype pre-production Associated made gear boxes, hence the forward mounting shock tower off a B44. So they were custom made by the team, and they might eventually release them as an option part is what I understood.
Everyone else at the worlds driving an Associated branded car used the Reds setup posted above, but not the Factory drivers. The two setups are vastly different.
Everyone else at the worlds driving an Associated branded car used the Reds setup posted above, but not the Factory drivers. The two setups are vastly different.
10-07-2015, 06:28 AM
Found this pic from Worlds. This car has a few new JC items - chassis, shock caps, shock collars, etc.
10-07-2015, 06:50 AM
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10-07-2015, 09:19 AM
First think I would change is a simple roll center change to the front of the car. The best way to lower the roll center in the middle of the corner, but not necessarily change it at initial input, is to maintain the same static camber link angle, but lengthen it. This will minimize how much the roll center rises, the more the car leans.
10-07-2015, 10:28 AM
First think I would change is a simple roll center change to the front of the car. The best way to lower the roll center in the middle of the corner, but not necessarily change it at initial input, is to maintain the same static camber link angle, but lengthen it. This will minimize how much the roll center rises, the more the car leans.
By raising the rear roll center relative to the front roll center you are inclining the roll axis even more so that more weight is transferred to the outside front tire along with quicker weight transfer side -to-side in the rear making the car feel more 'responsive'.
10-07-2015, 12:26 PM
My mistake, at first couple glances it looked like a B44 tower, but after looking at it more it does look custom. Interested to see some body off pics or know if the kit will ever be available as an option
10-07-2015, 01:14 PM
For more aggresive mid to corner-exit steering I usually prefer to raise the rear roll center. Either taking out 1-2mm off the inner rear camber link or perhaps even going a half hole shorter off the hub. However, if you go to far the car can become much more twitchy to drive and almost 'wandery'.
By raising the rear roll center relative to the front roll center you are inclining the roll axis even more so that more weight is transferred to the outside front tire along with quicker weight transfer side -to-side in the rear making the car feel more 'responsive'.
By raising the rear roll center relative to the front roll center you are inclining the roll axis even more so that more weight is transferred to the outside front tire along with quicker weight transfer side -to-side in the rear making the car feel more 'responsive'.
Last edited by Cpt.America; 10-07-2015 at 02:07 PM. Reason: added "perceived"
10-07-2015, 01:27 PM
I am actually -2mm inside and inside 2 hole down on mine. But we race on a very edgy clay track with frequent traction rolls.
10-07-2015, 01:27 PM
I usually keep 2mm washer on the front inner camber link as standard (so I don't usually go up from there and don't prefer to lengthen the front link) and go down as grip increases, and likewise on the rear to keep a roll balance.
10-07-2015, 03:26 PM
You will find that, with team setups, the harder you drive into the corner, the more the car will turn. Have you tried absolutely blasting the corner
10-07-2015, 07:51 PM
Asked previously-
Does anyone have a chart of the smallest and largest pinions that fit onto the Spurs. Just trying to save myself the legwork.
If so I can do a FDR chart in excel/pdf for everyone to save and/or print out
75 spur min pinion is 25
This is assuming a standard motor plate
Does anyone have a chart of the smallest and largest pinions that fit onto the Spurs. Just trying to save myself the legwork.
If so I can do a FDR chart in excel/pdf for everyone to save and/or print out
75 spur min pinion is 25
This is assuming a standard motor plate
10-07-2015, 09:39 PM
Asked previously-
Does anyone have a chart of the smallest and largest pinions that fit onto the Spurs. Just trying to save myself the legwork.
If so I can do a FDR chart in excel/pdf for everyone to save and/or print out
75 spur min pinion is 25
This is assuming a standard motor plate
Does anyone have a chart of the smallest and largest pinions that fit onto the Spurs. Just trying to save myself the legwork.
If so I can do a FDR chart in excel/pdf for everyone to save and/or print out
75 spur min pinion is 25
This is assuming a standard motor plate
10-08-2015, 04:34 AM
I race on a huge 1/8th track on some weekends then small 10th tracks otherwise. Very different.Randy Pike from Tekin recommended I try around 7.9 fdr for the small track. I got the RPM motor. I worked it out for a 72 spur and then the pinion wouldn't reach. So was hoping someone had a table somewhere. To save me the annoyance of changing pinions and Spurs not knowing if they'll fit.
I suppose if I stick to the Spurs you recommend I'll work it out pretty quickly. Thanks.
I suppose if I stick to the Spurs you recommend I'll work it out pretty quickly. Thanks.
10-08-2015, 06:34 AM
For more aggresive mid to corner-exit steering I usually prefer to raise the rear roll center. Either taking out 1-2mm off the inner rear camber link or perhaps even going a half hole shorter off the hub. However, if you go to far the car can become much more twitchy to drive and almost 'wandery'.
By raising the rear roll center relative to the front roll center you are inclining the roll axis even more so that more weight is transferred to the outside front tire along with quicker weight transfer side -to-side in the rear making the car feel more 'responsive'.
By raising the rear roll center relative to the front roll center you are inclining the roll axis even more so that more weight is transferred to the outside front tire along with quicker weight transfer side -to-side in the rear making the car feel more 'responsive'.
10-08-2015, 06:37 AM
Can you clarify what you mean by mid corner. Are you decelerating in just before the apex, accelerating out just past the apex, or really just stuck in the middle of the corner forced to go slow because the car didn't make the corner and leveled out.
You will find that, with team setups, the harder you drive into the corner, the more the car will turn. Have you tried absolutely blasting the corner
You will find that, with team setups, the harder you drive into the corner, the more the car will turn. Have you tried absolutely blasting the corner