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Matt Trimmings 04-12-2013 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 12038652)
I don't have my car in front of me, but aren't you effectively making the link longer when you reverse the ballstud on the hub???

by just a wee little bit, yes.

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:11 AM

lol. check this out from the EOS finals. Its AWSOME.


"While Cavalieri, Numedahl and Thielke are all running the latest chassis technology here in Dortmund, the fourth member of the factory Associated team Craig Drescher his turning back the clocks running a 1993 RC10. An 11 time European Offroad Champion, the British driver used this model to win the third in a run of 4-consecutive European titles. Setting the 61st fastest time, Drescher said he is running the car after he got the chance to run a ‘classic’ race in France and having enjoyed the experience he decided to set himself the challenge of seeing how he could do against the latest cars. Having been out of top line competition for sometime now due to a lack of time he said running a new Associated would have only left him frustrated had he not been on the pace and this way he is having a lot more fun adding if he can get the car in the top half of the field that would make his weekend."

Jonny5 04-12-2013 09:12 AM

For all of the shock spacing discussion: http://www.tresrey-usa.com/yaiba-rac...-mounting-kit/

Yaiba's mounting package clears the towers with no dremeling of any kind. No additional spacers either, though the rear lower shock pivot ball has about 1-1.5mm of material added to spacer the bottom away a touch more.

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 12038652)
I don't have my car in front of me, but aren't you effectively making the link longer when you reverse the ballstud on the hub???

The angle makes it longer. The way it was explained to me is that the "real" distance is the same, but the angle makes the link slightly longer but does not change the feel like a longer link would.

Matt Trimmings 04-12-2013 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12038685)
The angle makes it longer. The way it was explained to me is that the "real" distance is the same, but the angle makes the link slightly longer but does not change the feel like a longer link would.

The fact is yes, it is a longer link. Would any of us notice a link that was longer by that small of a distance, no. So therefore it shouldnt change the feel to a noticeable degree.

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:25 AM

yeah, the link is longer. lol, I cant find the words to properly explain it. Its like a triangle. lets say that the perpendicular line runs from the standard location to the inside ball stud. When you move the link back the length is increased but we are still in the same plane as originally. Thus there is not change in performance. That is my understanding of how it works. I am probably still not getting it right. I might make a picture, lol.

Matt Trimmings 04-12-2013 09:29 AM

true...just had to think of it a bit more. It 'shouldnt' have any effect really.

Wild Cherry 04-12-2013 09:29 AM

Moving Shock Tower
 
What if you break a Ubrace ?

O-no ....
pray there's time between rounds I guess...

Johnny

Nice part .....Would save me the hassles
picking up .030 off the floor .:cool:

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:31 AM

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ok, my understand is because your moving along BC, the link will obviously get longer to keep the perpendicular line of ABC. As long as the BC get longer and the relative AB stays the same, there is no change to the camber gain or handling. Yes?no?

t0p_sh0tta 04-12-2013 09:32 AM

I don't see how flipping the ballstud on the hub would result in a broken U-brace, but keep doing what you do...

t0p_sh0tta 04-12-2013 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12038740)
ok, my understand is because your moving along BC, the link will obviously get longer to keep the perpendicular line of ABC. As long as the BC get longer and the relative AB stays the same, there is no change to the camber gain or handling. Yes?no?

I'm no physicist, but I'm sure rotating that link along the Z-axis (3RD dimension) will have some affect. 99% positive most of us won't be able to feel it.

Wild Cherry 04-12-2013 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 12038743)
I don't see how flipping the ballstud on the hub would result in a broken U-brace, but keep doing what you do...

You never broken a U brace before ?:confused:

Usually its just a stripped out ball stud for me ...

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 12038743)
I don't see how flipping the ballstud on the hub would result in a broken U-brace, but keep doing what you do...

he was refering to moding the u-brace and moving the tower forward. Just keep a drilled one as a backup. lol. I prefer to flip the carbon upper, but it forces me into the c hub, because the A hits the wheel. I might get the yaiba or exotec hubs. So I can move the link back and use the A height.

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 12038751)
I'm no physicist, but I'm sure rotating that link along the Z-axis (3RD dimension) will have some affect. 99% positive most of us won't be able to feel it.

lol, I didnt invent the science, just repeating what I was told from people that know more than me. Hey, they once thought the earth was flat and the sun rotated around the earth. The science could be wrong, lol. Just passing out the info that was given to me. I would think for sure that the angle and the longer link might put more force on the ball stud and make it break more often... Leverage and all.


But look at it this way. The RB6 and the losi 22 use "back" holes on their hubs for the "in between" length positions on the hubs. They dont seem overly concerned with moving the link back 2mm.

Wildcat1971 04-12-2013 09:47 AM

lol, I found this and it made me smile. lol, he was hauling but in that 20 year old car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZWKZeDeQc


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