The ONE class to rule them all...
12-11-2012, 03:23 PM
#31
We love 4WD short course open and 2WD Stock buggy in Western Slope Colorado.
12-11-2012, 03:54 PM
#32
It looks like all the suggestions indicate why there is no "one size fits all" class. Everyone has their preferences, and clearly they'll suggest their fav as the solution. I don't think a single class would help either.
I have a 2wd buggy, a recently rebirthed stadium truck, a 4wd buggy, e 8th buggy and truggy, 2 and 4wd SCTs, an SCB and 3 on road cars. You either go with the flow or you don't race. We have a local forum and talk about what we want to run at the next race. If some of us decide to visit another track we check to see what's popular there. I highly doubt we could change their minds about running any classes. They race what makes them happy. If we want to run with them we bring an rc that fits.
The only class that's the same everywhere and seems to do what you guys want; VTA. So until a tightly confined class that can run on big or small tracks, appeals to different folks for different reasons and is still fun/competitive you'll be hard pressed to succeed with the idea. Blinky too slow, 1/10th too fragile and so on comes to mind... I hate to sound so negative but; good luck
I have a 2wd buggy, a recently rebirthed stadium truck, a 4wd buggy, e 8th buggy and truggy, 2 and 4wd SCTs, an SCB and 3 on road cars. You either go with the flow or you don't race. We have a local forum and talk about what we want to run at the next race. If some of us decide to visit another track we check to see what's popular there. I highly doubt we could change their minds about running any classes. They race what makes them happy. If we want to run with them we bring an rc that fits.
The only class that's the same everywhere and seems to do what you guys want; VTA. So until a tightly confined class that can run on big or small tracks, appeals to different folks for different reasons and is still fun/competitive you'll be hard pressed to succeed with the idea. Blinky too slow, 1/10th too fragile and so on comes to mind... I hate to sound so negative but; good luck
12-11-2012, 05:00 PM
#33
That is because the caster USA site is down. I got tired of paying $2-300 per week getting viruses fixed. Having a TDE editor and x cart and v bulletin all on the same server was a huge problem which is part of the reason we have chosen to use PayPal for additional security. Hope to be up and running again next week. Someone mentioned it was a bad time to be down. I disagree since the vast majority of our customers are diehard racers. They are buying presents for their families instead of replacement kits and parts. Sucks but a financial win for the moment.
12-11-2012, 05:24 PM
#34
according to your pictures you only have one spot for camber links? How does that work? What happens if the car pushes or the is too loose?
If i bend aluminum its also a lot more expensive to replace and can easily effect the handling and performance.
I would be curious to have a conversation of design at a later moment.
If i bend aluminum its also a lot more expensive to replace and can easily effect the handling and performance.
I would be curious to have a conversation of design at a later moment.
12-11-2012, 07:30 PM
#37
In my experience in R/C, one of the biggest problems and benefits of the sport is the amount of classes that are raced. We have 3 popular scales: 1/8, 1/10, and various minis. Then we divide them into types: open wheeled buggies, open wheeled trucks, and closed wheeled trucks. Then they are divided further by specific class rules... stock, blinky 17.5, mod, etc. This can be good for areas that have good turn outs, but devastating for small tracks. If everyone raced the same style vehicle and class we would see better competition and prices for that style vehicle would go down. Classes could get broken down by driver ability rather than the vehicle body.
What do you think is the best ALL-AROUND CLASS? To me this is tough, because although I love 2wd buggy more than anything... it is not the best all around class. There are many factors to consider when looking at this other than just they way it looks or handles a specific environment.
Here are a few qualities that I think are important to create the best racing class:
-Ability to race on both large outdoor and small indoor tracks
-Handles rough/ loose conditions well. This makes going to an outdoor track and practicing actually fun.
-No need for tire wars
-No 'parachute' effect
-Durable
I think 4wd short course trucks with 2.2 truck tires and whatever body you want to run, be it buggy style or truck style or going with 1/10 buggies but upping the minimum weight (so manufacturers will make them a bit beefier) and allowing wider tires (so tires don't wear so fast). 2wd SCB would be great too!
What do you think would be the best all around off-road racing class both indoor and outdoor?
What do you think is the best ALL-AROUND CLASS? To me this is tough, because although I love 2wd buggy more than anything... it is not the best all around class. There are many factors to consider when looking at this other than just they way it looks or handles a specific environment.
Here are a few qualities that I think are important to create the best racing class:
-Ability to race on both large outdoor and small indoor tracks
-Handles rough/ loose conditions well. This makes going to an outdoor track and practicing actually fun.
-No need for tire wars
-No 'parachute' effect
-Durable
I think 4wd short course trucks with 2.2 truck tires and whatever body you want to run, be it buggy style or truck style or going with 1/10 buggies but upping the minimum weight (so manufacturers will make them a bit beefier) and allowing wider tires (so tires don't wear so fast). 2wd SCB would be great too!
What do you think would be the best all around off-road racing class both indoor and outdoor?
1/8th Nitro buggy is the F1 of offroad Rc IMO. Long races, cool pit stops, solid fair rules.
Since you specify "indoor", I guess 1/8th Ebuggy would win.
12-11-2012, 08:05 PM
#39
I agree completely about the longer races in the nitro class. I wish we would do the same in e-buggy.
12-11-2012, 08:13 PM
#40
IMHO my choice would be 1/10th scale stadium truck, mod or stock...
Thankfully it is coming back in my neck of the woods...
But I agree with most the one "Go To" class otherwise would be 1/10th scale mod buggy. If you can drive that you can drive anything! I sadly cannot...
Thankfully it is coming back in my neck of the woods...
But I agree with most the one "Go To" class otherwise would be 1/10th scale mod buggy. If you can drive that you can drive anything! I sadly cannot...
12-11-2012, 09:12 PM
#42
Somebody would complain either way...
12-11-2012, 09:35 PM
#43
"My" best all around class is Stock SCB. I love running this class more than any other. After that, it would be Stock/Mod Truck. If you're referring to what is the best all around class for the hobby in general (in regards to manufacturers, tracks and hobby stores), it would have to be 2WD Short Course Trucks. Its typically one of the largest classes at most tracks and likely has brought more new people to the hobby in recent years than any other.
12-12-2012, 04:14 AM
#44
I don't think too many classes is the biggest problem in the hobby. Racers actually race more than one class to get more track time in.
I would say cost/time consumed per the amount of time actually racing the cars is.
At a large event, you get 3 or 4 five or six minute qualifiers and then a main event. Although the race entry fee (average $45) for that much time is actually low, each class you run has about $1000 invested as equipment, travel expenses and such.
I think the hobby needs a more a more efficient, less time consuming way of qualifying drivers and seeding them for longer main events. Massive time is spent running multiple rounds of qualifying, you would think more time would be spent racing the mains, since they are supposed to be more important.
I would say cost/time consumed per the amount of time actually racing the cars is.
At a large event, you get 3 or 4 five or six minute qualifiers and then a main event. Although the race entry fee (average $45) for that much time is actually low, each class you run has about $1000 invested as equipment, travel expenses and such.
I think the hobby needs a more a more efficient, less time consuming way of qualifying drivers and seeding them for longer main events. Massive time is spent running multiple rounds of qualifying, you would think more time would be spent racing the mains, since they are supposed to be more important.
12-12-2012, 05:44 AM
#45
We don't run indoors so that would not be an issue. We were going to try it at one race this year but about half the field only had one battery for their car.