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darryl80 05-25-2012 03:31 PM

my losi ten t brushless conversion project
 
i am converting my losi ten t into brushless power. i will be running it on a total of 4s lipo batteries. i will post pictures when i get it all put together.

rustlererad3 05-25-2012 03:36 PM

ill follow this sounds interesting and question are you going to give us pictures throughout the build or just before and afters

darryl80 05-25-2012 03:37 PM

i will post pictures as i am putting everything together.

rustlererad3 05-25-2012 03:40 PM

nice thats what i like to hear im in

darryl80 05-25-2012 03:52 PM

here is just a little teaser picture for you guys
 
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...yl1980/026.jpg

some time next week i will get the parts in i need to starting building it. i cant wait.

darryl80 05-25-2012 07:32 PM

how well would a novak ballistic 550 motor with a 4.5 stator work on 4s lipo battery?

84 GT 5.0 05-25-2012 07:37 PM

i have seen it done in emaxx but i think you need the older 4.5 hv, in that ten t it will be violent as all hell, i would suggest either a tenshock 3500 kv on 3s or a castle 1415 on 3 or 4s

darryl80 05-25-2012 07:47 PM

i dont feel like buying a new motor since i already have a novak 550 with a 4.5 stator.

HobbytownGBW 05-25-2012 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by darryl80 (Post 10779842)
i dont feel like buying a new motor since i already have a novak 550 with a 4.5 stator.

The HV motors and the ballistic 550s are identical, they use the same rotor, bearings, stator wire, ect. That being said, I've seen the 4.5t with the 14mm tuning rotor run on 4s in an e-revo, and its a monster. Watch your motor temps, and pick up the heatsink, and mount a nice sized fan on it.

Devigili22 05-25-2012 07:59 PM

Yea just watch your temps with the 4.5 on 4s. It will be, and there is no other word for it, insane.

darryl80 05-25-2012 08:01 PM

i do have a big turnigy fan on a heatsink.

darryl80 05-25-2012 08:25 PM

this is the same exact heatsink and fan that i am putting on my motor guys.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-540-550-...item256fea69b9

rustlererad3 05-25-2012 09:41 PM

i think it will work

RC*PHREAK 05-25-2012 10:01 PM

i can't see it staying cool for longer than a couple mins. i had a hard time keeping my 4.5 ballistic cool on 2S in my ten-t. that was with a 14T pinion. i think the smallest you can fit is 11T. no way it's staying cool on 4S.

Feint Motion 05-25-2012 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by darryl80 (Post 10779963)
this is the same exact heatsink and fan that i am putting on my motor guys.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-540-550-...item256fea69b9

Your going to have to hack away at that heat sink to fit the Ten T /SCTE

darryl80 05-26-2012 05:06 AM

people are telling me that i should get a 6.5 stator since i want to run 4s lipo is that true yes or no?

darryl80 05-26-2012 05:32 AM

can i use the pinion gears from my sc10 4x4 on my ten t? i hope i can.

RC*PHREAK 05-26-2012 08:23 AM

Yes, it's true about the 6.5. Much better option.

As for pinions, if you use all SCTE stuff for the conversion, no, your pinions won't work. SCTE uses a mod 1 spur. The SC10 4x4 can use 48p or 32p. Most use 32p. If you want to use 32p, you can buy this spur: http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...rod=rcm10tspur you can use 32p pinions with that.

ta_man 05-26-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by darryl80 (Post 10780847)
people are telling me that i should get a 6.5 stator since i want to run 4s lipo is that true yes or no?

If you are really going to run it on 4S you would actually be better off with an 8.5 or 9.5 stator than a 6.5. I run a 6 pound rc-monster converted CRT.5 on 3S with a HV 7.5 and it is almost too fast.

darryl80 05-26-2012 08:56 PM

well everything for my losi ten t conversion project will all be in next week.

darryl80 05-26-2012 09:19 PM

i just bought a novak hv 6.5 motor for my losi ten t.

SuperDaveNT 05-27-2012 08:30 AM

I had a converted 10-T on 4/, it was stupid fast!

darryl80 05-27-2012 08:40 AM

what motor did it have in it?

SuperDaveNT 05-27-2012 09:10 AM

Tekin scx4 5.5

darryl80 05-27-2012 09:48 AM

i am putting a novak hv 6.5 in my losi ten t.

8ight-e 05-27-2012 09:56 AM

You shouldn't be putting anything more than a 3s lipo with those higher kv 550 motors..

best choice would have been a tekin 1800-2000kv buggy motor to be honest.. if you wanted 4s lipo. Super overkill for the platform.. a 3s lipo with 2000-3000kv is great. Any higher kv should be kicked to a larger 2s lipo imo.

SuperDaveNT 05-27-2012 10:05 AM

Sorry, when I ran 4s it was on a Tekin T8 1900 motor. I ram 3s on the 5.5

darryl80 05-27-2012 10:08 AM

i already bought the motor so it has to go in my ten t. i will be using a 4s esc too.

darryl80 05-27-2012 10:15 AM

i checked novaks website for the manufacturers specs and the novak hv 6.5 is a 4s lipo motor so i am all good to go.

8ight-e 05-27-2012 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by darryl80 (Post 10784717)
i checked novaks website for the manufacturers specs and the novak hv 6.5 is a 4s lipo motor so i am all good to go.

Gearing will be very limited.. and almost unusable on a race track. I'd suggest looking at a 3s config. many more gearing options from crazy to decent. PS any ESC capable of 4s can do just fine w/ 3s.

darryl80 05-27-2012 10:22 AM

i wont be racing the ten t. it will be my basher vehicle.

8ight-e 05-27-2012 10:28 AM

A 6.5 is 3400kv, on a 4s lipo that is 50k RPM which is well over the "sweet spot" of 30k rpm. Expect extra heat due to being this much over and basically unusable for anything but speed passes.. Even a 7.5 slator would put it at 45k which is closer but still on the very high side. With 3s lipo you can be at 37.7k rpm and it will be way nicer not only for gearing and usability but temps.

With the stock 40t scte spur you will be at 47mph with a 12t pinion on 4s lipo.. that's retarded and will be too hot most of the time.

With the stock 40t and 3s lipo with 12t or 13t pinion you will be at a usable race speed (37mph) and have the ability to gear up to get some crazy fast speeds for bashing as well if you so wanted. I wouldn't go over a 14t though even on 3s lipo.

Just trying to help..

darryl80 05-27-2012 10:32 AM

i bought the rc monster 32 pitch spur gear so i can use my sc10 4x4 pinion gears i dont know if that changes anything.

darryl80 05-27-2012 10:33 AM

i dont have any 3s lipo batteries. all i have is 2s lipo batteries.

darryl80 05-27-2012 11:28 AM

i just got done taking off all of the stickers off the body and wing of my ten t it looks way better now.

ta_man 05-27-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by 8ight-e (Post 10784755)
Just trying to help..

Doesn't sound like he wants help. He just wants to do what he wants to do.

darryl80 05-27-2012 12:10 PM

like i said i already did check the novak motor specs and the novak motor i bought can handle up to 4s lipo battery. i will try out different pinion tooth counts to get the performance and speed i am looking for. also i know i wont ever take my ten t to my local race track cause it will be my true basher truggy.

RC*PHREAK 05-27-2012 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by darryl80 (Post 10785031)
like i said i already did check the novak motor specs and the novak motor i bought can handle up to 4s lipo battery. i will try out different pinion tooth counts to get the performance and speed i am looking for. also i know i wont ever take my ten t to my local race track cause it will be my true basher truggy.

it won't be much of a basher if you can only run it for 5 minutes at a time. if you continue with your plans, i predict a "my motor is running too hot" thread. take the advice of the others in this thread and either get another motor or get some 3S batteries.

darryl80 05-27-2012 12:24 PM

how much do 3s batteries cost cause all i have are 2s batteries.

ta_man 05-27-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK (Post 10785063)
it won't be much of a basher if you can only run it for 5 minutes at a time. if you continue with your plans, i predict a "my motor is running too hot" thread. take the advice of the others in this thread and either get another motor or get some 3S batteries.

I was going to say the exact same thing and you beat me to it. Those motors are rated to run for a 5 minute race at which point they are at max allowable temperature. Bashing is generally harder on the motor (more full throttle, more brakes) than racing on a track.

I also can't figure out what the big deal is about this. RC-Monster guys did this conversion like a year or two ago.


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