TLR 4WD 1/10 Rumors?
03-25-2012, 06:52 AM
#46
I love my xx4. But I'm going to be heated if they release a new short course before a new 4w buggy! I hear all these rumors that they are basing a new 4w off of the xx4 (which I think would be unbeatable!) But lord knows whats true. I'll be running the xx4 and see what tlr comes out with. At the rate TLR/Losi's been going with these new cars, it's going to be an awesome car
03-29-2012, 07:48 PM
#47
No Idea!
I dont have a clue what will come out when but i would love to see a TLR 4wd that has the driveline efficiency of the XXX4.
Add to that the balance and geometry (and unique tough look) of the XX4 to the innovation and build quality of the TLR22 and i feel that it will be a solid platform! My 2c!
Similarly to when the 22 was released, i think we will all be suprised if and when a new 4wd platform comes out. While there was a lot of speculation as to how the 22 would differ over the XXX platform, i know i was suprised to see what eventuated, particularly how solid the car was!
If nothing else, it gives us all plenty to talk about on these forums!!
Add to that the balance and geometry (and unique tough look) of the XX4 to the innovation and build quality of the TLR22 and i feel that it will be a solid platform! My 2c!
Similarly to when the 22 was released, i think we will all be suprised if and when a new 4wd platform comes out. While there was a lot of speculation as to how the 22 would differ over the XXX platform, i know i was suprised to see what eventuated, particularly how solid the car was!
If nothing else, it gives us all plenty to talk about on these forums!!
03-29-2012, 08:45 PM
#49
Forgot where I read it, but I thought ROAR didn't like the Shorty packs? Something about building cars around the shorty design?
After some thought, I'd would like to see them continue the 1 belt design (more of a dream really). Same layout as the XXX4, but instead of molded graphite tub, flat plate graphite and aluminum bulkheads. Maybe take the suspension geometry off the XX4?
OR...I'm imagining an Xray T3 '12-style chassis layout with longer arms. I think the Touring cars have achieved pretty good balance in their designs, and it wouldn't be hard to make the chassis perform for offroad.
We shall see....
After some thought, I'd would like to see them continue the 1 belt design (more of a dream really). Same layout as the XXX4, but instead of molded graphite tub, flat plate graphite and aluminum bulkheads. Maybe take the suspension geometry off the XX4?
OR...I'm imagining an Xray T3 '12-style chassis layout with longer arms. I think the Touring cars have achieved pretty good balance in their designs, and it wouldn't be hard to make the chassis perform for offroad.
We shall see....
03-29-2012, 10:21 PM
#51
i hav heard from someone that spoke to TLR at the Cactus the the plans for a new car hav been sent to the losi's makers in Taiwan and may see a new car in the new year (if the world is still here!
) so the car is on the market for the worlds! I was also told that it will be a shaft car!!!
lets see if he is right
) so the car is on the market for the worlds! I was also told that it will be a shaft car!!!lets see if he is right
03-29-2012, 10:36 PM
#52
i hav heard from someone that spoke to TLR at the Cactus the the plans for a new car hav been sent to the losi's makers in Taiwan and may see a new car in the new year (if the world is still here!) so the car is on the market for the worlds! I was also told that it will be a shaft car!!!
lets see if he is right
) so the car is on the market for the worlds! I was also told that it will be a shaft car!!!lets see if he is right
03-30-2012, 11:51 AM
#53
I couldn't imagine it being a shaft car. At the Reedy race they said they were testing the xx4's now that drivetrain efficiency isn't an issue anymore due to battery and motor technology. I would suppose they were learning form that to help develop the next generation car. I had even heard dyno commenting on how poorly shaft drive cars accelerate and how under acceleration, the motor torque cause the car to not accelerate straight as well as influence the jumping characteristics. So, I don't see why they would then make a shaft drive car.
Really? Dyno said that? "Testing a belt car now that drivetrain efficiency isn't an issue anymore?" A point A to B belt drive anything is more efficient from start until the belt no longer sees a load. Thus belt drives are not efficient at higher RPM due to "lashing" or harmonics.
Shaft drive cars don't accelerate as well due to a bit heavier drive train. Shafts, CVA's, couplers and the connecting components are all together heavier than a belt or two or ten.
With brushless motors we don't see the rotational forces that we use to with an armature full of copper. Do the center shaft weights play a roll in torque steer? They can. A properly engineered shaft drive drive train won't suffer from the ill effects of torque steer.
03-30-2012, 11:58 AM
#54
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I heard the new 4wd buggy will be out in 2 weeks.
03-30-2012, 12:22 PM
#55
Whatever it is, I hope it's aluminum chassis, shaft drive, gear diffs, big bores, 12mm hexes and carbon towers.
03-30-2012, 01:14 PM
#59
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Most of the people out there are waiting for a brand new TLR 4WD. No one knows when it will be out, we are here and we are waiting for....
In the middle of these rumors, my XX4 WE is a still in shape and very competitive.
In the middle of these rumors, my XX4 WE is a still in shape and very competitive.