Timmahhh

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Blinky is more expensive than mod if you want to be competitive. Your car can still be fast with a mediocre battery and old mod motor... the same isn't true of stock, especially blinky stock. I personally don't care for the equipment wars that are created. The slower the spec class, the more the equipment matters.

With all that being said, I welcome blinky because it looks like it will create a consistent mod class at my local track, and I can stop running stock all together.

erc55

yes stock should be always blinky. timing escs are expensive and excessive timing will make motors run hotter and wear faster making it even more expensive. no timing just makes it cheaper and simpler = more fun.

Sean B.

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This is exactly why I dont run "stock". It's all a bunch of BS, and always has been. You always have worry about who's running what, and what else they might be doing to be fast, whether it might be twisting coms like back in the day or more recently, people hacking the speedos and making them blink with boost.

Waaaaaaaaay too many people run stock. (Sandbaggers)
"Slow is fast." Yes it is, but come on people! It's time to put the stock motor down. 5, 10, 20 years is too long to be running stock. When you have the eternal "stock masters" always dominating the stock class, it intimidates and drives off the newer drivers that feel like they can never come close to competing. You cant expect newbies to run novice forever.
Stock should be for the slower, less skilled drivers. After a certain point it's time to step it up a little bit.

And just to add one more thing for people to hate me for....
Stock should be 21.5

Just opinions of course. I guess everyone has one

DBL15

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i think motor advance on the end ball should be 0 degs as well as all motors are different from factory

i ran stock in on road and it was a joke IMO i know i had no timing on my esc and 10 degs on the motor and was still not in the ball park , as guys i was running against had motor timing up to 50degs it was not even close to fair

until the rules are you can only use this motor and this esc i dont believe it would ever be a level playing feild

and yes now your right about the latest Lipo's and C ratings etc

Timmahhh

iTrader: (15)

I agree on all points.

Wild Cherry

Blinky just makes boosting a even bigger advantage ...

plus 1 for boost , no blink ...

Grandturk

iTrader: (5)

I run 17.5 blinky SC at my local track. Is it fun? Sure is. Is it slower than mod - not really. On a tight technical track, you still can only go so fast. On big open tracks, that's where a mod motor can have move legs and put down some serious speed.

The thing to remember with 17.5 blinky or any limited motor class is the fast guys are always going to be fast and the demand on equipment is always going to be high. Typically spec guys are going to gear their motors to the limit - to wring every last bit of speed out of the motor. This will result in motor failure eventually. Just tonight I geared up my 17.5 and went from 125 degrees to 144. Will I go higher next time? Maybe if it maks me more competitive.

henry

This is why I don't race any "stock" classes. Rules differ too much from track to track.

It's actually cheaper for me to run mod because the way I'm geared I'm only @ 120 degrees temp wise on the motor have all the power I need and I know the thing will last because I'm not pushing the motor to its design limit heat-wise.

I've seen people roast 17.5s more frequently than the mod motors because either they boost the piss out of the esc and build up heat in the motor. Or, in the case of non-boost they advance the timing on the can then gear up and again build too much heat in the motor.

So, in short I don't think it makes too much of a difference at the track. The same racers that would spend $170 on a high-end esc will now just spend it on ridiculous high C rating batts.

One thing people forget about the cost of racing is that you can't really control the cost that people are willing to spend on their stuff regardless of the rules.

Jonny5

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I'm completely in favor of blinky racing for a multitude of reasons, but the cost argument against timing esc's is absolutely absurd. There are many esc's available for $100 or less that are plenty capable of winning in boosted 17.5- the Hobbywing comes to mind immediately.

Blinky racing has increased our local stock class participation in a big way, I'd say car counts are close to double on a regular basis from boosted. The racing is better- closer lap times, closer finishes, tighter fields, and less rough driving (in sc). It's also much easier for beginners to control so they get better more quickly. I was against blinky for a long time, but seeing all the positives that it brings I wish we would have done it a long time ago.

chaseman1

I run blinky cause its fun hands down. The class is huge and at the places I race in the mod class its like watching a ifmar world championship on some nights! For a fast guy thats not a superpro blinky is where its at where Im from!

IanWright

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That is absolutely on the money. The only way to get a truly inexpensive stock class would be to race a specific RTR out of the box.

But of course that would have it's inherent problems.

J_Bone

iTrader: (8)

For all the reasons stated above, my track only runs sportsman2 or pro2. Its based on your driving skill. Rules out all BS and it levels out the field.

brent701

iTrader: (8)

Yes stock class should blinky.
If you can be fast in a stock class you will be fast in a mod class as long as you can handle the power.

Everyone is on this bigger is better/fast trip right now at some of the local tracks I go to. Yet my little 17.5T in my Buggy hands them their a**. People are using a larger motor to make up for the lack of driving skill.

I feel Blinky modes makes it more about the driver and a well setup truck/car. Even than you still have advantages over others in blinkly mode due to motor selection. One 13.5 motor is not the same as another.

Davidka

iTrader: (86)

This is an antiquated viewpoint that hasn't been relevant since brushed motors were still being run. Maybe it holds if you are an elite level driver running on carpet, but not dirt (this is the electric off-road forum).

I run a 2 season old Tekin 17.5 and a 2+ season old 40c battery and nobody is any faster than me in 2wd off-road stock because of their equipment. The "fast guy" (with the newest stuff) pulls max 1-3ft on my by the end of the straight. If I drive a better line onto the straight, that's gone.

Oh, and you (people in general) don't gear to "temp". Gear to best performance, check temp to be sure you're not cooking anything. 9 times out of 10 if the temp is high, it's not running as well as it would if you geared down a couple of teeth.

Grandturk

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Given equal driving skill and setup acumen, the guy who's willing to burn up his spec motor is always going to be faster.