18Likes"How To Properly Build And Break In a Ball Differential and Slipper Clutch"
08-23-2011, 09:00 AM
#121
hello,
i think this is one of the best threads in the whole forum buddy.
thanks a million for your time, videos and sharing all your tips. i used to think that breaking in a diff isnt important. i used to rebuild my diff and few packs later, they got gritty and not really the way i like em,
last time i rebuilt it, i thought what the heck, let me try your method and to be honest, i ran the buggy for 20-25 packs maybe and the diff still feels smooth!!!!
thanks again
Ali
i think this is one of the best threads in the whole forum buddy.
thanks a million for your time, videos and sharing all your tips. i used to think that breaking in a diff isnt important. i used to rebuild my diff and few packs later, they got gritty and not really the way i like em,
last time i rebuilt it, i thought what the heck, let me try your method and to be honest, i ran the buggy for 20-25 packs maybe and the diff still feels smooth!!!!
thanks again
Ali
08-23-2011, 10:13 AM
#122
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You're too kind...I was just trying to help others in our hobby out...
Thanks, Racer53
Thanks, Racer53
08-23-2011, 03:02 PM
#123
I already had a Novak Glitch Buster and it didn't work and or help. Even ran 2 at the same time, the whole truck would lose power.
It helped as soon as I switched to a local's M11.....
@Racer53: I still don't understand why they decided to put a plastic shield instead of rubber. But I will replace that one bearing when I get to it.
Thanks for all your help...
08-24-2011, 12:38 AM
#124
top notch as usual :-)
might I suggest an edited version ?
only made out of respect to your efforts and time spend educating noobies like me
might I ask how a good mesh between pinion & spur sounds like? I read that people adjust them by the noise they make?
might I suggest an edited version ?
| + YouTube Video | |
only made out of respect to your efforts and time spend educating noobies like me
might I ask how a good mesh between pinion & spur sounds like? I read that people adjust them by the noise they make?
08-24-2011, 05:35 AM
#125
top notch as usual :-)
might I suggest an edited version ?
only made out of respect to your efforts and time spend educating noobies like me
might I ask how a good mesh between pinion & spur sounds like? I read that people adjust them by the noise they make?
might I suggest an edited version ?
| + YouTube Video | |
only made out of respect to your efforts and time spend educating noobies like me
might I ask how a good mesh between pinion & spur sounds like? I read that people adjust them by the noise they make?
I am new to this hobby and you helped me identify that I had a slipping diff, going to get that opened up and tighten the diff up.
Thank you so much for doing this.
08-24-2011, 06:12 AM
#126
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Thread Starter
top notch as usual :-)
might I suggest an edited version ?
only made out of respect to your efforts and time spend educating noobies like me
might I ask how a good mesh between pinion & spur sounds like? I read that people adjust them by the noise they make?
might I suggest an edited version ?
only made out of respect to your efforts and time spend educating noobies like me
might I ask how a good mesh between pinion & spur sounds like? I read that people adjust them by the noise they make?
Having to start school so it might be a little while...
+1000 for this,
I am new to this hobby and you helped me identify that I had a slipping diff, going to get that opened up and tighten the diff up.
Thank you so much for doing this.
I am new to this hobby and you helped me identify that I had a slipping diff, going to get that opened up and tighten the diff up.
Thank you so much for doing this.
Good Luck guys, Racer53
08-24-2011, 03:22 PM
#127
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Thread Starter
08-25-2011, 05:23 AM
#128
Thanks! excellent tips and helps me a lot;!
08-25-2011, 04:35 PM
#129
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Thread Starter
Anytime...
08-26-2011, 12:43 AM
#130
Just how tight should the diff be?
I just rebuilt the diff in my X6 and followed the instructions (except I used Gorilla Snawt, I can't see this being the problem?), when it came time to setup the slipper, I couldn't really do it.
Going by the instructions the slipper should be tight enough to lift the front end aproximately 3 inches correct?
I can pretty much lock the slipper and it still will not lift the front end.
I tightened down the diff more and more, now to the point that it takes quite a bit of force to turn the wheels (when holding the opposite and spur) and yet it still manages to slip.
I just rebuilt the diff in my X6 and followed the instructions (except I used Gorilla Snawt, I can't see this being the problem?), when it came time to setup the slipper, I couldn't really do it.
Going by the instructions the slipper should be tight enough to lift the front end aproximately 3 inches correct?
I can pretty much lock the slipper and it still will not lift the front end.
I tightened down the diff more and more, now to the point that it takes quite a bit of force to turn the wheels (when holding the opposite and spur) and yet it still manages to slip.
Last edited by Shimmy; 08-26-2011 at 01:08 AM.
08-26-2011, 11:07 AM
#131
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Thread Starter
Hmmm...
Alright theres a couple things I can think of...
First thought that comes to my mind, is what version of the slipper assembly are you using...1 or 2...I had the same problem with the version 1, when I switched to version 2 I only had to tighten it down about half way to get the front end lift I wanted....
Second thought would be that the X6 is a mid motored buggy and you might not get the same lift you would a rear motor buggy...I have no expirience with mid motored, so you might check in the x-Factory thread...
I wish it was as easy to just tell you how many times to tighten the diff, but they all vary a little...
Good Luck, Racer53
Alright theres a couple things I can think of...
First thought that comes to my mind, is what version of the slipper assembly are you using...1 or 2...I had the same problem with the version 1, when I switched to version 2 I only had to tighten it down about half way to get the front end lift I wanted....
Second thought would be that the X6 is a mid motored buggy and you might not get the same lift you would a rear motor buggy...I have no expirience with mid motored, so you might check in the x-Factory thread...
I wish it was as easy to just tell you how many times to tighten the diff, but they all vary a little...
Good Luck, Racer53
08-26-2011, 07:14 PM
#132
Thanks for the reply.
It's just a long spring, no washer or anything, so I assume it must be V1.
It didn't dawn on me that being mid motor, it might not be able to lift the front as easy.
Just re-read what I wrote before though, not sure if it was clear what I was trying to say.
It is the diff that is slipping.
I put a little white out marker on the slipper plate to make sure and it is definitely the diff that's slipping.
EDIT:
I think I have it sorted, I re-watched the videos and noticed you said to not have a polish like surface on the rings, I had a slight polish on them, I just re-sanded them with 260 grit sandpaper and the diff now doesn't slip like before.
Would the spring have much effect on how and when the diff slips? (as in, after it has been tightened up).
I only just got the X6 and is my first ball diff.
It's just a long spring, no washer or anything, so I assume it must be V1.
It didn't dawn on me that being mid motor, it might not be able to lift the front as easy.
Just re-read what I wrote before though, not sure if it was clear what I was trying to say.
It is the diff that is slipping.
I put a little white out marker on the slipper plate to make sure and it is definitely the diff that's slipping.
EDIT:
I think I have it sorted, I re-watched the videos and noticed you said to not have a polish like surface on the rings, I had a slight polish on them, I just re-sanded them with 260 grit sandpaper and the diff now doesn't slip like before.
Would the spring have much effect on how and when the diff slips? (as in, after it has been tightened up).
I only just got the X6 and is my first ball diff.
Last edited by Shimmy; 08-26-2011 at 08:34 PM.
08-27-2011, 10:03 AM
#133
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Thread Starter
Thanks for the reply.
It's just a long spring, no washer or anything, so I assume it must be V1.
It didn't dawn on me that being mid motor, it might not be able to lift the front as easy.
Just re-read what I wrote before though, not sure if it was clear what I was trying to say.
It is the diff that is slipping.
I put a little white out marker on the slipper plate to make sure and it is definitely the diff that's slipping.
EDIT:
I think I have it sorted, I re-watched the videos and noticed you said to not have a polish like surface on the rings, I had a slight polish on them, I just re-sanded them with 260 grit sandpaper and the diff now doesn't slip like before.
Would the spring have much effect on how and when the diff slips? (as in, after it has been tightened up).
I only just got the X6 and is my first ball diff.
It's just a long spring, no washer or anything, so I assume it must be V1.
It didn't dawn on me that being mid motor, it might not be able to lift the front as easy.
Just re-read what I wrote before though, not sure if it was clear what I was trying to say.
It is the diff that is slipping.
I put a little white out marker on the slipper plate to make sure and it is definitely the diff that's slipping.
EDIT:
I think I have it sorted, I re-watched the videos and noticed you said to not have a polish like surface on the rings, I had a slight polish on them, I just re-sanded them with 260 grit sandpaper and the diff now doesn't slip like before.
Would the spring have much effect on how and when the diff slips? (as in, after it has been tightened up).
I only just got the X6 and is my first ball diff.
Anyway, you asked if the spring had any effect on how and when the diff slips...Are you reffering to the slipper spring or the diff spring???
The X6 is a great car and once we get the diff problems solved you'll really like the way it handles...
Racer53
08-29-2011, 09:17 AM
#134
Yeah, I'll grab the v2 bits on my next parts order.
I am referring to the diff spring.
Yeah, I just had it out on Sunday racing it and it felt pretty good, just a few little things to change and it would be perfect.
I am referring to the diff spring.
Yeah, I just had it out on Sunday racing it and it felt pretty good, just a few little things to change and it would be perfect.
08-30-2011, 11:04 AM
#135
Tech Master
Thread Starter
The spring has some effect, but it's not a tuning tool...The first time you compress it, you're pretty much done with it...