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CoyoteSlash 10-15-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by old&slow (Post 9786791)
Hey coyote ,that was not a dig towards you

just info and insight towards the other guy that wanted to go to a even fatter rod with 1/8 ends

Oh, I know it wasn't a dig. I totally get the idea of a rod high up like that too. I just mostly put this together to show people how easy it was and not to spend 30 bucks for something so simple as how I did it. 75% of people won't care about 5 more ounces up there for the chassis flex fix. I "will" epoxy some bigger rod into each end with bigger eyelets in the future like you're talking about for sure. No problems here at all.
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My pinned slipper finally made it's Maiden today with no rain so the track wasn't blech.

Holy shit. I love the power. I love the traction. I was on a Mamba Monster Losi's ass and taking him on in the sweepers and straights. The problem came in the corners.

I have a Spektrum 6030 Servo I have turned down to 80% because it's rubbing if I go beyond that. This wasn't a problem originally because the truck (once I let off the throttle entirely) would sweep around the corners nice and tight. NOW that this mod is done, I don't have to let off the throttle nearly as much as we intended. I'm finding though that i'm still very much needing to release the throttle to corner like the losi. (That's pretty sad considering imo) Anyone have any ideas off the top of their head they had to process to really be happy with the pinned slipper? I "am" happy with the mod, holy moly it's a different truck but the cornering still isn't how i'd like it. I am beginning to have to throw the brakes on to get around the corner when before I could just let off the throttle and tuck into the corners. What do you pinners think? Or do I just need to get used to it how it is now being such a different truck?

Vegatron75 10-15-2011 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Nitro Herb (Post 9786695)
I ran my truck with the pinned shaft today. I didnt even get a full pack and i lost the idler gear in the rear tranny so i fixed it and when back out and same thing happened. I fixed it again and unpinned it and it was fine the rest of the day. I never had any type of tranny problems before i pinned the shaft. I am running the clutch basket and i generally run the nut flush. When i lost the second idler gear i was actually running the nut backed off from flush. It doesnt sound like anyone else is having this issue, wonder why i am?

Your not the only one. My rear gearbox didn't sound new/great before the mod but, 1 race night and it sounds pretty gnarly now.

Got any pics of the damage?

Vegatron75 10-15-2011 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 9786810)
Oh, I know it wasn't a dig. I totally get the idea of a rod high up like that too. I just mostly put this together to show people how easy it was and not to spend 30 bucks for something so simple as how I did it. 75% of people won't care about 5 more ounces up there for the chassis flex fix. I "will" epoxy some bigger rod into each end with bigger eyelets in the future like you're talking about for sure. No problems here at all.

Does the brace really weigh 7oz?

I built one that weighs 13g.

CoyoteSlash 10-15-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Vegatron75 (Post 9786824)
Does the brace really weigh 7oz?

No. I was just making up a number that wouldn't be argued for it being heavier. xD I'll weigh "mine" tomorrow for people.

MantisWorx 10-15-2011 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 9786810)
Oh, I know it wasn't a dig. I totally get the idea of a rod high up like that too. I just mostly put this together to show people how easy it was and not to spend 30 bucks for something so simple as how I did it. 75% of people won't care about 5 more ounces up there for the chassis flex fix. I "will" epoxy some bigger rod into each end with bigger eyelets in the future like you're talking about for sure. No problems here at all.
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My pinned slipper finally made it's Maiden today with no rain so the track wasn't blech.

Holy shit. I love the power. I love the traction. I was on a Mamba Monster Losi's ass and taking him on in the sweepers and straights. The problem came in the corners.

I have a Spektrum 6030 Servo I have turned down to 80% because it's rubbing if I go beyond that. This wasn't a problem originally because the truck (once I let off the throttle entirely) would sweep around the corners nice and tight. NOW that this mod is done, I don't have to let off the throttle nearly as much as we intended. I'm finding though that i'm still very much needing to release the throttle to corner like the losi. (That's pretty sad considering imo) Anyone have any ideas off the top of their head they had to process to really be happy with the pinned slipper? I "am" happy with the mod, holy moly it's a different truck but the cornering still isn't how i'd like it. I am beginning to have to throw the brakes on to get around the corner when before I could just let off the throttle and tuck into the corners. What do you pinners think? Or do I just need to get used to it how it is now being such a different truck?

go lighter on the front dif fluid and get rid of the front RC shims if you have any. that worked for me, i can pretty much put the truck anywhere i like. on the vid you will see that sometimes i pitch the turn and sometimes i go through it tight! i have 10kf and 7k rear right now. will try 5k rear this coming weekend.

CoyoteSlash 10-15-2011 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 9786866)
go lighter on the front dif fluid and get rid of the front RC shims if you have any. that worked for me, i can pretty much put the truck anywhere i like. on the vid you will see that sometimes i pitch the turn and sometimes i go through it tight! i have 10kf and 7k rear right now. will try 5k rear this coming weekend.

I have 5k/10k. and no shims. =(

MantisWorx 10-15-2011 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 9786916)
I have 5k/10k. and no shims. =(

hmmmm add 2mm to the rear RC?

1Fastpede 10-15-2011 08:29 PM

Coyote post up your full setup

CoyoteSlash 10-15-2011 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by 1Fastpede (Post 9786948)
Coyote post up your full setup

CoyoteSlash Setup

Sorry, Totally forgot about a setup to even look at. blahh. Thanks for taking a look either way!

CraigMBA 10-15-2011 09:50 PM

I ran my truck with the pin today. About a second and a half faster per lap than before. It won't rotate like before, but it's so much easier to drive, jumps so much better, and accelerates so much harder and is so much faster, I frankly don't care that much. And I think I could stand more motor than my 4.5.

It took me about a dozen laps to get used to it. It is not remotely the same truck.

T-BirdJunkie 10-15-2011 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 9787141)
I ran my truck with the pin today. About a second and a half faster per lap than before. It won't rotate like before, but it's so much easier to drive, jumps so much better, and accelerates so much harder and is so much faster, I frankly don't care that much. And I think I could stand more motor than my 4.5.

It took me about a dozen laps to get used to it. It is not remotely the same truck.

This makes ThunderbirdJunkie wish he hadn't sold his SC10 4w. Hopefully the FT comes with a de-decoupled slipper:sneaky:

CoyoteSlash 10-15-2011 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 9787141)
I ran my truck with the pin today. About a second and a half faster per lap than before. It won't rotate like before, but it's so much easier to drive, jumps so much better, and accelerates so much harder and is so much faster, I frankly don't care that much. And I think I could stand more motor than my 4.5.

It took me about a dozen laps to get used to it. It is not remotely the same truck.

Yeah. That's what I was kind of thinking. I'm not going to get that turning before with the pin. It's hard and fast like the losi's or small and nimble like it was before. I might just be making laps finding a new way to tighten up those corners. I'm still gonna pick your guy's brains once before I get back out there and just start practicing with my "new" sc10 4x4. :P

Cameron Kellogg 10-15-2011 10:12 PM

What track is this set-up for? PRCR?

CoyoteSlash 10-15-2011 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron Kellogg (Post 9787220)
What track is this set-up for? PRCR?

Not entirely. The soooooft shocks are set up for PRCR, I hadn't got to the rest of the truck, haven't been back down there in a while. (work, money, airplanes)

I know you guys hate us Meldrum Bar guy's but the track is redone and a blast to drive.

Cameron Kellogg 10-15-2011 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 9787226)
Not entirely. The soooooft shocks are set up for PRCR, I hadn't got to the rest of the truck, haven't been back down there in a while. (work, money, airplanes)

I know you guys hate us Meldrum Bar guy's but the track is redone and a blast to drive.

No hate'n here.

Your rear ride height is too low. You won't get enough weight transfer for braking and steering into corners when the rear is that much lower that the front. Even on carpet I ran 22mm front and rear. Try 24 to 26 on dirt.


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