xxx123

iTrader: (22)

Is there any remarkable benefit to spend more $ on a "R"? Budget issue. I can use the extra to get myself some used electronics. Please adv me if you have the regular?
I am a casual racer, not that hardcore.... Are the stock tires OK?
Thanks...

t0p_sh0tta

iTrader: (35)

IMO, no. I prefer the gear diff. I have the RTR and only added velvet shocks and tires.

If you're bashing, then stock tires are decent. I don't expect them to do well on anything other than pavement or carpet though.

leongkc

iTrader: (9)

May I ask what oil do you use in your gear diff?

t0p_sh0tta

iTrader: (35)

In doors, 3-5K Losi.

Outside 7-10K Losi.

Kraig

iTrader: (81)

My truck started out as a RTR because they didn't sell the kit. My kit had shocks that leaked but if you look through the thread about the truck you will see how to fix it but maybe ones being shipped now don't have this problem. The kit tires worked good for me on medium to low traction tracks where just a fine layer of dust would build up on the track.

To this day I have purchased the following items: ball diff, velvet shocks, motor centering pieces because my budget allowed me to.

t0p_sh0tta

iTrader: (35)

I recently picked up the alloy rear suspension blocks for a little bit of bling, but this truck needs nothin (other than shocks that don't leak). If I had the patience to figure out how to rebuild the stock shocks I wouldn't have upgraded those either.

I've replaced a few ball studs, and a stock axle. Other than that this truck is every bit as tough as you would expect a race truck to be, and super competitive.

AreCee

iTrader: (1)

I started out with the RTR in April since that was all that was available.

I have rebuilt the stock shocks and they are better but not near the Velvet quality, however, at $100 for a set it is a bit much. The Velvets come with the SC-R.

I use a brushless set up so in went the motor centering kit, new top shaft (the stock one was slipping) and motor plate. Again these items come with the SC-R.

I replaced the gear diff with a ball diff again the SC-R wins.

Body, if you like the RTR you're in luck. I'm on my third body now so you'll be buying one regardless.

Tires, the RTR are only used in spec class racing and work rather well. If you intend to race you'll be buying new tires and wheels.

If you like RTR electronics (who does?) then you're good. I like using my nice 2.4GHz system and brushless so out went the stock gear including the marginal servo it came with.

Bottom line is that I would have saved money by getting the SC-R in the first place but it wasn't around. Given a choice now I would go with the kit.

racer1812

iTrader: (31)

I've got friends who have both and between the shocks, cvd's, and the fact that the RTR steering rack rides on plastic bushings (not even metal bushings) that take a crap fast vs. bearings in the kit. Unless you REALLY need the radio gear, which isn't the best I've seen either, you're better off in the long run to get the kit.

Ghostrider86

iTrader: (13)

Pick up the kit used. I got one right here on RCtech with 4 races on it for $190........ you won't be disappointed..

arnie84

iTrader: (32)

I was told the r is carbon composite & the rtr is a cheepier plastic

Kraig

iTrader: (81)

I have never compared the rtr plastic to the kit plastic but the rtr stuff is pretty durable and stiff in my opinion.

RCHobbyGuy

iTrader: (56)

hey do you guys have the parts number for what allyou guys have done just asking i bought one used for 120.00 and it was rtr so thats why i ask i can buy one piece at a time

Kraig

iTrader: (81)

Over the year or so I have had my truck I have purchased these items.

KYOUM519-2 Kyosho 4.7mm Offset "Type B" Rear Hub Set - Wanted to match Tebo's setup
KYOUM523 Kyosho Offset Motor Spacer
KYOUM524 Kyosho Main Gear Shaft
KYOUMW509 Kyosho SP Motor Plate (RB5) - Only because I stripped a hole in the stock on (didn't know my own strength)
KYOUMW513 Kyosho 26T SP Idler Gear - because everyone else was buying them.
KYOUMW601 Kyosho 84mm Universal Swing Shaft Set (2)
KYOUMW602 Kyosho Ball Differential Set (Ultima SC/DB/RT5) - I wanted to try a ball diff (I should have bought some different diff balls though)
KYOW5196V Kyosho 38mm Velvet Coated Triple Cap Shock Set
KYOW5198V Kyosho 46mm Velvet Coated Triple Cap Shock Set
KYOW5198-60 Kyosho 75mm Rear Shock Spring (#60) (2)
KYOW5198-65 Kyosho 75mm Rear Shock Spring (#65) (2)
YOW5199-75 Kyosho 55mm Front Shock Spring (#75) (2)
KYOW5199-70 Kyosho 55mm Front Shock Spring (#70) (2)

AreCee

iTrader: (1)

Actually the diff balls in the ball diff set are much better than the SC-R kit's balls. For some strange reason Kyosho pacakges their better balls in the diff kit but packages the softer balls in their car kits. Go figure!

The plastic for most of the parts are the same (same part #s) for the RTR and the SC-R.

Basically it will cost about $200 to convert an RTR into a SC-R.