Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road
Durango DEX210 Thread >

Durango DEX210 Thread

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree80Likes

Durango DEX210 Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-23-2012, 11:45 AM
  #8356  
Tech Regular
 
JosephBlack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: fantasy land
Posts: 371
Default

Originally Posted by eddie708
so most people are running 4 hole pistons?
My brother and I run 4 hole pistons. We've tried the two holes, and countless other setups. But came back to 1.3 x4 holes.
JosephBlack is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 12:30 PM
  #8357  
Tech Regular
 
M3Armand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 263
Default

Originally Posted by JosephBlack
My brother and I run 4 hole pistons. We've tried the two holes, and countless other setups. But came back to 1.3 x4 holes.
It seems like everyone is running the 4 holes. My issue with this is that we'd have to get a 1.3 drill bit and drill our own using the blanks that was provided...

Having said that, why can't we just use the 1.3 x 6 holes and use a thicker oil? Won't that make up the difference? The question is, what flavor of thicker oil? If we are using 40/30 wt with the 4 hole, do we use 50/40 wt with the 6 hole? Or even 60/50 wt front/rear?
M3Armand is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 12:38 PM
  #8358  
Tech Master
iTrader: (67)
 
BRSracing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Blue Springs MO
Posts: 1,945
Trader Rating: 67 (100%+)
Default

Kudos to Durango for dumping the chassis and going to a +8mm plastic chassis.
BRSracing is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 01:07 PM
  #8359  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,846
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by M3Armand
It seems like everyone is running the 4 holes. My issue with this is that we'd have to get a 1.3 drill bit and drill our own using the blanks that was provided...

Having said that, why can't we just use the 1.3 x 6 holes and use a thicker oil? Won't that make up the difference? The question is, what flavor of thicker oil? If we are using 40/30 wt with the 4 hole, do we use 50/40 wt with the 6 hole? Or even 60/50 wt front/rear?
In a word- pack. The 6 hole pistons simply do not offer enough pack on tracks that have anything more than small jumps, unless you perfectly downside them every lap. Cornering with 6 hole pistons can be dialed in very well, but chassis slapping and getting the car upset is what made guys go to 4 holes. That said, we're trying 2 holes in the buggy this weekend as they have been excellent in our ST and SC trucks.
Jonny5 is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 01:20 PM
  #8360  
Tech Regular
 
M3Armand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 263
Default

Originally Posted by Jonny5
In a word- pack. The 6 hole pistons simply do not offer enough pack on tracks that have anything more than small jumps, unless you perfectly downside them every lap. Cornering with 6 hole pistons can be dialed in very well, but chassis slapping and getting the car upset is what made guys go to 4 holes. That said, we're trying 2 holes in the buggy this weekend as they have been excellent in our ST and SC trucks.
I'm not sure if you read my post correctly. Using THICKER oil with the 6 hole piston, wouldn't that give you all the pack you need?
M3Armand is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 02:01 PM
  #8361  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Tunatsol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 253
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Im using the 6 hole with 60/50 and still get slap off small jumps
Tunatsol is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 02:04 PM
  #8362  
Tech Regular
 
JosephBlack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: fantasy land
Posts: 371
Default

Originally Posted by M3Armand
It seems like everyone is running the 4 holes. My issue with this is that we'd have to get a 1.3 drill bit and drill our own using the blanks that was provided...

Having said that, why can't we just use the 1.3 x 6 holes and use a thicker oil? Won't that make up the difference? The question is, what flavor of thicker oil? If we are using 40/30 wt with the 4 hole, do we use 50/40 wt with the 6 hole? Or even 60/50 wt front/rear?
Plugging the holes is easy enough. I use JB Weld. Some glue them. Some melt the hole shut.
JosephBlack is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 02:09 PM
  #8363  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,846
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by M3Armand
I'm not sure if you read my post correctly. Using THICKER oil with the 6 hole piston, wouldn't that give you all the pack you need?
The number/size of the holes is what relates to pack, not the oil weight. So no, it won't. To achieve enough damping to simulate the needed pack, your oil weight would be so high that handling would suffer- unless, like I stated before, your track has very small jumps or you are able to precisely downside every lap so as to not slap and kick the chassis.

Read this for starters: http://users.telenet.be/elvo/. Particularly the suspension section that deals with damping.

And I highly suggest this: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ston-Drill-Set
Jonny5 is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 02:09 PM
  #8364  
Tech Regular
 
M3Armand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 263
Default

Originally Posted by Tunatsol
Im using the 6 hole with 60/50 and still get slap off small jumps
That tells me I need to try 70/60

Originally Posted by JosephBlack
Plugging the holes is easy enough. I use JB Weld. Some glue them. Some melt the hole shut.
That's a darn great point!!
M3Armand is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 05:45 PM
  #8365  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (360)
 
tobamiester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tea drinking Limmey in NJ
Posts: 12,388
Trader Rating: 360 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Jonny5
Yup. Gary's (GMK) Drill bit set is a must for your Shock needs.
tobamiester is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 06:08 PM
  #8366  
P6
Tech Addict
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: il
Posts: 685
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

didnt find that site yet im always looking to learn more ,, doesnt the way the oil flows throught the holes affect all of this especially the number of holes not just the size and if the hole isnt perfectly circle
P6 is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 06:44 PM
  #8367  
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 68
Default

i use 4 hole 55s all the way around and it works awsome no bounce off the jumps.
zylstra is offline  
Old 10-23-2012, 08:25 PM
  #8368  
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 42
Default

Originally Posted by Jonny5
The number/size of the holes is what relates to pack, not the oil weight. So no, it won't. To achieve enough damping to simulate the needed pack, your oil weight would be so high that handling would suffer- unless, like I stated before, your track has very small jumps or you are able to precisely downside every lap so as to not slap and kick the chassis.

Read this for starters: http://users.telenet.be/elvo/. Particularly the suspension section that deals with damping.

And I highly suggest this: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ston-Drill-Set
I understand what u mean now. i will run 4 hole pistons and then go from there. And thanks for that link very helpful
eddie708 is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 07:09 AM
  #8369  
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 38
Default newbie need help

Want to buy 210 but im being told not too. Doing sc now never owned a buggy the 210 being highly tunable i could mess it up. Indoor dirt clay track is where ill be running. 210 looks awesome will get one a some point but should i start with a b4.1 .. opinions. & thoughts greatly appreciated thanks.
dolfns1 is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 07:38 AM
  #8370  
Tech Regular
 
M3Armand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 263
Default

Originally Posted by dolfns1
Want to buy 210 but im being told not too. Doing sc now never owned a buggy the 210 being highly tunable i could mess it up. Indoor dirt clay track is where ill be running. 210 looks awesome will get one a some point but should i start with a b4.1 .. opinions. & thoughts greatly appreciated thanks.
If you're a newbie, you're probably better off with the B4.1. There's probably too many points of failure in assembly and maintenance for you.
M3Armand is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.