HoBao Hyper 9E thread
#2041
those that are using the MMP with internal bec. did you remove the wires that came on the esc that are only 13gage? I have a tekin 1900 i plan to run on 4cell and the 13 gage looking small.
#2042
I run zippy packs that are 50mm wide so they need to go vertically, will they fit under the ve8 shell like this?
I run a turnigy external BEC when I need one.
I run a turnigy external BEC when I need one.
#2043
#2045
hey guys
been doing some E buggy research, thinking about going hyper 9E with a tekin RX8 with a 1900kv motor. any battery suggestions???
been doing some E buggy research, thinking about going hyper 9E with a tekin RX8 with a 1900kv motor. any battery suggestions???
#2048
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I run this voltage capacitor with my MMP because it's simple. You can make your own for about $2 if you can find the right size capacitor.
http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...=NOV5626/135.0
I prefer this version of the MMP as it has solder posts similar to the RX8.
It comes with the internal BEC removed and no fan, both of which I don't use anyway.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ss-ESC-1S-LiPo
This is the BEC I use because it's small, lightweight, and has worked well so far.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Adjustable-BEC
I did have issues with glitching and my transponder missing some laps when using the standard MMP with the internal BEC.
Since I've been using the external BEC in combination with the capacitor it has worked flawlessly and I typically run 6s on outdoor dirt (Rev) setup for 20 minute mains.
I pushed it hard for 15 minutes trying to comeback from dead last this past weekend after getting hooked up with some plow donkey twice on the first lap of the A main and the car came off the track at under 130 degrees for the motor and just under 110 degrees for the MMP with no fan. I was running 6s with a T8 1400kv in "smart-sense" mode.
HH
I run this voltage capacitor with my MMP because it's simple. You can make your own for about $2 if you can find the right size capacitor.
http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...=NOV5626/135.0
I prefer this version of the MMP as it has solder posts similar to the RX8.
It comes with the internal BEC removed and no fan, both of which I don't use anyway.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ss-ESC-1S-LiPo
This is the BEC I use because it's small, lightweight, and has worked well so far.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Adjustable-BEC
I did have issues with glitching and my transponder missing some laps when using the standard MMP with the internal BEC.
Since I've been using the external BEC in combination with the capacitor it has worked flawlessly and I typically run 6s on outdoor dirt (Rev) setup for 20 minute mains.
I pushed it hard for 15 minutes trying to comeback from dead last this past weekend after getting hooked up with some plow donkey twice on the first lap of the A main and the car came off the track at under 130 degrees for the motor and just under 110 degrees for the MMP with no fan. I was running 6s with a T8 1400kv in "smart-sense" mode.
HH
The internal BEC over current protection circuitry is supposedly too sensitive when powering high torque servo(s) such as the JR9100 S/T amongst others but the actual BEC is able to handle the loads. You simply need a capacitor as stated previously to get rid of voltage ripple when the over-amp protection kicks in momentarily. It's mainly an issue with 2.4 systems where they "brown out" or lose bind momentarily, so you lose servo response and throttle response for an instant.
Here's a video of my 8ight doing it (impossible to drive like this hence my bad driving... and lack of skill )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMpYVaXKnw
Oh and also the ONLY Castle product I do not approve of is the CC BEC, I have had several fail on me and deliver full voltage to my servos. But your results may vary and I know of many who use them without issue.
IF ANYONE has a picture of a VE8 body on their or someone else's hyper can you please link/host/post it please! I'm trying to decide whether to do mudguards or the VE8 shell and I need to see the vertical clearance for the battery with it.
Here's a video of my 8ight doing it (impossible to drive like this hence my bad driving... and lack of skill )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMpYVaXKnw
Oh and also the ONLY Castle product I do not approve of is the CC BEC, I have had several fail on me and deliver full voltage to my servos. But your results may vary and I know of many who use them without issue.
IF ANYONE has a picture of a VE8 body on their or someone else's hyper can you please link/host/post it please! I'm trying to decide whether to do mudguards or the VE8 shell and I need to see the vertical clearance for the battery with it.
#2049
you may want to hold off on the custom 1409 motor, seems castle is working on a couple short course motors, a 1410 1Y and 1415 1Y
I get my info on rc-monster. IIRC, Patrick del Castillo commented about this over on the forums.
EDIT: Here's a link: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ight=MMP+1%2F8
For capacitors I'm going to get the "spektrum voltage protector" because it's half the price of the novak.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...tage-Protector
Excellent idea on the 1cell version of the MMP, never thought of that. How are your temps without the fan/shroud on the esc?
Also keep in mind when people do run into issues with the MMP BEC failing, it will be more common in higher voltage setups not only because of weight but simple because of how switching BEC's function. As input voltage goes up, the current the BEC can deliver decreases.
Shipping in September/October -- two different versions.
One uses a 1410/1Y motor, an SCT specific version of the Sidewinder (beefed up for SCT), and is completely ROAR legal for 2S SCT racing.
The other version uses a 1415/1Y motor, and a Mamba Max Pro -- not ROAR legal, but setup for 3S-4S racing.
The motors will also be available separately.
Thanx!
Patrick
One uses a 1410/1Y motor, an SCT specific version of the Sidewinder (beefed up for SCT), and is completely ROAR legal for 2S SCT racing.
The other version uses a 1415/1Y motor, and a Mamba Max Pro -- not ROAR legal, but setup for 3S-4S racing.
The motors will also be available separately.
Thanx!
Patrick
EDIT: Here's a link: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ight=MMP+1%2F8
For capacitors I'm going to get the "spektrum voltage protector" because it's half the price of the novak.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...tage-Protector
Excellent idea on the 1cell version of the MMP, never thought of that. How are your temps without the fan/shroud on the esc?
Also keep in mind when people do run into issues with the MMP BEC failing, it will be more common in higher voltage setups not only because of weight but simple because of how switching BEC's function. As input voltage goes up, the current the BEC can deliver decreases.
Last edited by DanielC.; 07-27-2010 at 10:53 PM.
#2050
Mindthoughts already has it and the kvs that castle would probably offer if i remember what it said on rc-monster wouldnt be suitable to what he needs.
#2051
The 1410 should suit his needs as it will be a bit longer rotor and maybe 200-250kv less than he currently has. If not, this motor on 3s should be killer for the 9E. Considering people run the Tekin 1700kv on 4s buggies with no issue I don't see the problem with running a ~3300kv motor on 2s for the 9E but it will be on the slower side. Also it will be availible in mass quantity, easily rebuildable once their repair kits come out, won't take weeks to construct, and will be considerably cheaper. Don't get me wrong the true Steve Neu motors are great but when it comes to convenience and practicality the CC/Neu versions liscenced by Castle are superior for the mass market IMO.
Last edited by DanielC.; 07-27-2010 at 11:10 PM.
#2052
The 1410 should suit his needs as it will be a bit longer rotor and maybe 200-250kv less than he currently has. If not, this motor on 3s should be killer for the 9E. Considering people run the Tekin 1700kv on 4s buggies with no issue I don't see the problem with running a ~3300kv motor on 2s for the 9E but it will be on the slower side. Also it will be availible in mass quantity, easily rebuildable once their repair kits come out, won't take weeks to construct, and will be considerably cheaper. Don't get me wrong the true Steve Neu motors are great but when it comes to convenience and practicality the CC/Neu versions liscenced by Castle are superior for the mass market IMO.
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#2054
Most use the 2650 where I run and I already have 3 cells