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Old 06-07-2003, 11:13 PM   #1
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Default Mugen MSt-1 or Losi Adam Drake XXX-NT?

Hope you guys aren't sick of reading question like this again. (Sorry) I really need some help, don't know which one to get? I'm kind of thinking about the Mst-1, but the XXX-NT look nice. I heard that the Mst-1 requires only Mugen wheels, some say any 2.2 wheels would work on the Mst-1, and when I emailed Mugen USA they say the rear requires only Mugen wheels but not sure about the front. On R/C Car Action review of the Mst-1 it even say it requires only Mugen wheel. I don't know which one to pick, so please someone help me out! Thank!
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Old 06-07-2003, 11:16 PM   #2
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XXX-NT... it's been proven to kick ass at the track.
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Old 06-08-2003, 08:29 AM   #3
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definately XXXnt, it will win for you and parts are readily available. When it comes to competition level trucks, 90% of the time, they are all pretty much equal so parts availability and support of your local racers will be best decision maker, if you have a truck no one in your area races, who can you turn to for setup advice and the like?
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I have a xxxnt de its a good truck but the rear end is always loose. Have tried several tire combos and slipper adjustments. Our track suface is kind of like ballfield mix. Althou it could be my engine I have a mt 12 on it with a rotary carb to calm it down.
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If the rear end is loose, try stiffening the front springs, and use softer in the rear.
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havent tried stiffing the front but I have softend the rear with yellow springs and 30wt oil all the way around, just seems like its loose all the time in the turns and getting on throttle
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I have had both trucks and to put it simply without making anyone upset I will just recomend the Losi over the mugen. If you want to finish all your races I would sugest the factory team gt unless you can find a xxxnt that was made before horizon changed the plastic.
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I would go with the FT GT as well for durability, I never broke 1 part on ANY GT I have raced, and I owned 6 of them.
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But isn't the gt one a pretty old truck? I afraid Associate would come out with a new truck after I get it. But I might go for the Losi, thanx for the help guys!
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Go with the original, Team Losi. Thicker oil, stiffer spring will give more traction coming out of turns, more steering entering turns. Stiffer springs on the front give less steering entering and more coming out. Red IFMAR studs might work good on that type of surface.
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Well actually guys, I'm going with the gt! Thanx for the help!
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you will be happy and if you need any setup advice just ask I am always willing to help
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It doesn't matter were I look KINGZJ is very anti MUGEN.
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From what I have read he had bad luck with his MST-1 so he is trying to get folks not to make the same "mistake" as he did. I don't fault him for that. I myself have really enjoyed my MST-1. Very durable and drives great. The only downside, and it can be a big one, is parts support. Obviously its going to be much easier to get parts for a Rc10GT or XXXNT than for this truck. I order almost all my parts anyways since the LHS carries next to nothing for any of the cars.

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Default GT or MST-1

I have a GT and a MST-1. I'm tired of the GT simply because everyone and there mother has one. The GT is a damn good truck and is very tunable and everyone has a set up that will work. The Mugen and the GT are completely different trucks. They both have different strengths and weaknesses. I'm sure the losi is real close in comparison to the Mugen. I have spent a lot of time with the Mugen and still it doesn't feel right. Every time I get the Mugen close to dialed in I pull the GT out and I'm still faster. The GT is very user friendly and is reliable. The Mugen has a lot of potential , but be prepared to spend time and money. Last thought, The Mugens's plastic seems cheap and wears very fast. Interested in feed back on the MST-1 and and a cure for a front end push.
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