AE new 4wd Buggy spotted at SoCal
06-12-2007, 11:29 AM
#76
The majority of cars readily available in the US are too fragile. The XXX4, BJ4WE both have front end durability issues. When we had a class locally here it wouldn't be unheard of for the 8 cars who started the race to be down to 2 or 3 by the end of the run. I got out simply because I got tired of not finishing races.
On the XXX4 the spindle carriers are worthless (one guy actually broke one simply turning at the end of the straight).
On the BJ4WE even the heavy duty arms crack if you don't land a jump perfectly. And front shock towers crack at a rate of 1-2 per race day.
I've heard good things about the kyosho's durability. Those 3 are really the only cars that were ever run at our local track.
If AE can come up with a TRULY durable car then it would definately have something worth looking into.
On the XXX4 the spindle carriers are worthless (one guy actually broke one simply turning at the end of the straight).
On the BJ4WE even the heavy duty arms crack if you don't land a jump perfectly. And front shock towers crack at a rate of 1-2 per race day.
I've heard good things about the kyosho's durability. Those 3 are really the only cars that were ever run at our local track.
If AE can come up with a TRULY durable car then it would definately have something worth looking into.
06-12-2007, 03:07 PM
#77
I personally don't thnk is very realistic. They in fact are as duable as a 2 wheel.......if you disconnect the front drive train. Four wheels pulling allows you to drive any car that much harder and with very wild motors, well when they hit something they are going to break unless they are made of hardend steel.
06-12-2007, 03:45 PM
#78
I think there's one big (well, maybe two...LOL) differences in durability between 2wd and 4wd:
1) 2wd has kickup and/or huge caster relative to a 4wd, whick has caster similar to a touring car. If you hit something with a 2wd, the wheel will go UP almost as much as it will go back. Back breaks things -- up moves the suspension. I can't help but think that it has some effect.
2) Morons like me who would never even consider jumping into the "deep end" with mod 2wd will run mod 4wd...hence the added breakage.
I love my Lazer, though. It's probably the funnest car I've ever owned. Sure, I break it, but parts are cheap and it's SOOOOOOO fast and handles so well (at least that I can tell...LOL) that it just makes me smile when I drive it. I smiled with my XXX-4 too...but the parts bill was making me
1) 2wd has kickup and/or huge caster relative to a 4wd, whick has caster similar to a touring car. If you hit something with a 2wd, the wheel will go UP almost as much as it will go back. Back breaks things -- up moves the suspension. I can't help but think that it has some effect.
2) Morons like me who would never even consider jumping into the "deep end" with mod 2wd will run mod 4wd...hence the added breakage.
I love my Lazer, though. It's probably the funnest car I've ever owned. Sure, I break it, but parts are cheap and it's SOOOOOOO fast and handles so well (at least that I can tell...LOL) that it just makes me smile when I drive it. I smiled with my XXX-4 too...but the parts bill was making me
06-16-2007, 07:24 AM
#79
Tech Initiate
i think buying jconcept would be a better thing to do then developing a new car...the bj4 uses 80% ae parts anyway an jason is allredy a team driver isnt he ?
06-16-2007, 07:46 AM
#80
i dunno what u guys do to ur bj4 we cars but ive had mine land some seriously bad crashes and even a run away where it was running of like it was a batt to mtor straight connection when i blew my gtx and i ran into a 120 mm thick bit of pipe and didnt do a thing to it
i also ran it straight into a brick wall of a main straight due to loss of radio and broke nothin
i also ran it straight into a brick wall of a main straight due to loss of radio and broke nothin
06-18-2007, 06:09 PM
#82
I got tired of replacing arms on my non worlds too. A year ago, I bought the aluminum b4 arms front and rear. In that years time,(running twice a week, May until october) I've broken two steering knuckles, popped the ball cups a few times,and broken four ball cups. I also installed a GPM b4 front bumper which helps with bad front end landings. Parts breakage is minimal now, even with a 5.5 novak GTB
06-18-2007, 07:46 PM
#83
still no actual pics of the buggy?
06-20-2007, 07:20 AM
#84
Tech Regular
The majority of cars readily available in the US are too fragile. The XXX4, BJ4WE both have front end durability issues. When we had a class locally here it wouldn't be unheard of for the 8 cars who started the race to be down to 2 or 3 by the end of the run. I got out simply because I got tired of not finishing races.
On the XXX4 the spindle carriers are worthless (one guy actually broke one simply turning at the end of the straight).
On the BJ4WE even the heavy duty arms crack if you don't land a jump perfectly. And front shock towers crack at a rate of 1-2 per race day.
I've heard good things about the kyosho's durability. Those 3 are really the only cars that were ever run at our local track.
If AE can come up with a TRULY durable car then it would definately have something worth looking into.
On the XXX4 the spindle carriers are worthless (one guy actually broke one simply turning at the end of the straight).
On the BJ4WE even the heavy duty arms crack if you don't land a jump perfectly. And front shock towers crack at a rate of 1-2 per race day.
I've heard good things about the kyosho's durability. Those 3 are really the only cars that were ever run at our local track.
If AE can come up with a TRULY durable car then it would definately have something worth looking into.
06-20-2007, 08:11 AM
#85
I agree about the speed issue. When mod is pretty much the default class for 4wd electric buggy, at those speeds that can be achieved as you have much more traction, when you hit stuff the car will break.
I really think that buggies need to be designed with alittle more meat to them. yes, you will weigh a bit more, but, when running mod, you can always just go to more power and battery packs now provide plenty of power and runtime. Besides, if you can't finish the race, what does it matter you were alittle lighter?
As for 4wd class here in the USA, it AE throws there hat into the ring, could see a really big pickup in the class. There are good options out there right now, but the battle between the Big Two is missing.
I really think that buggies need to be designed with alittle more meat to them. yes, you will weigh a bit more, but, when running mod, you can always just go to more power and battery packs now provide plenty of power and runtime. Besides, if you can't finish the race, what does it matter you were alittle lighter?
As for 4wd class here in the USA, it AE throws there hat into the ring, could see a really big pickup in the class. There are good options out there right now, but the battle between the Big Two is missing.
06-20-2007, 08:57 AM
#88
well when your stuck in 4mod only due to no 4stock class, you just need to drive better....
07-16-2007, 12:01 PM
#90
I wonder if this car is for real or not!!! LOL 