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Old 03-24-2008, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stfitzgerald
Are there any other 1/8 scale electric guys in socal besides chuck67
There's a bunch of us in SD and the number of people running electric 1/8 scale should increase soon
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POLL...



What does everyone think is going to happen with LiPo rules in the future for 1/8th scale electric?

Does everyone think that IFMAR/ROAR will push to have our packs inside a hard plastic case as they did with the 1/10th scale packs?

Please give me some feedback on this one.

Thx
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Originally Posted by joyride153
wow 25t is that over kill? what should I buy? I have the rc8 with a 46/16 was 1512 1.5y not happy I was thinking something maybe 24 or 22 I just don't want to keep buying pinions gears, I would have the 16 to go normal but I want something comparable to a 1512 1.5d with the gearing
i'm running the 1.5y with a 13/46 and am very comparable to the nitros top speed, and kill them with acceleration. I could easily go up quite a few teeth and still have acceptable temps, but there's no need to for racing.

This in in my 8ight that comes in at a porky 8.7lbs. (i'm not sure how you guys are getting sub 8lb 8ights...)
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Originally Posted by joyride153
wow 25t is that over kill? what should I buy? I have the rc8 with a 46/16 was 1512 1.5y not happy I was thinking something maybe 24 or 22 I just don't want to keep buying pinions gears, I would have the 16 to go normal but I want something comparable to a 1512 1.5d with the gearing

With the larger pinions, you will keep pushing your motor away from the CG of the buggy.

Chewie uses a 1.5D on his RC8 and runs well with it. The 2D has been well for others and I think Chewie would rather use the 2D if he could comment.

This seems to be an issue with others, but if you think your car is too fast, you can turn it down in the radio or MM. We have prefered the radio because it just changes the output range of the radio signal not anything electronic in the speed control that could cause other issues.

Folks that just bash which there are only a few on this thread, there really are no guidlines.

BTW, where did you get your 1.5Y? It could be used on a 6S cell when the MMM comes out and be very competitive. You would just need to run higher cell counts.
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by joyride153
wow 25t is that over kill? what should I buy? I have the rc8 with a 46/16 was 1512 1.5y not happy I was thinking something maybe 24 or 22 I just don't want to keep buying pinions gears, I would have the 16 to go normal but I want something comparable to a 1512 1.5d with the gearing
There is a guy at my track running a RC8 with a 20tooth on it and it is just as fast as my 8ight with a 14 tooth.
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Originally Posted by Marzac2
POLL...



What does everyone think is going to happen with LiPo rules in the future for 1/8th scale electric?

Does everyone think that IFMAR/ROAR will push to have our packs inside a hard plastic case as they did with the 1/10th scale packs?

Please give me some feedback on this one.

Thx
If ROAR recognizes a 1/8 electric buggy class (I don't think they have rules for them one way or the other) they will almost definitely require hard cases on LiPos. It was a big point of contention for the 1/10 classes and it would be very inconsistent for them not to require them for 1/8th as they are heavier and harder crashing than smaller scales.
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Most of us are running fine with the lipos we have and if IFMAR or ROAR steps in, they will just mess things up like they most of the time do. They don't want technology to strive. Main reason I can't watch F1 anymore. FIA took the fun out of racing.
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Originally Posted by joyride153
just wondering I just built my rc8 with a 1512 1.5y motor with 46/16 and a s-02s 4000 lipos, I ran it on the street and was a little disappointed on the speed, do the 1512 1.5d or 1512 2.5d show faster speeds?

tony did some research and said my speeds should be

On the 1512 1.5Y it is a 1900/kv motor so that means on 14.8v your maximum RPM will be 28,120. The RC8 uses truggy ring & pinion gears in the differentials (43T and 10T). So your calculated top speed will be the following using these pinions and the 46T spur gear:



13T: 24.7 mph

14T: 26.6 mph

15T: 28.5 mph

16T: 30.5 mph

17T: 32.4 mph

18T: 34.3 mph

are the other motors a lot faster?


Seems like my b4 or t4 were a lot quicker.

If the other motors are a lot faster I would not mind upgrading

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joyride, my rc8, 1.5d max amps 6000 4s, geared 14-46, street tires(like the ones macro spun off the rim) 42.5 mph in about 100' via radar gun.
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Top speed does not mean anything. It should be geared to be as fast as you can get it at about 3/4 down the longest straight at your track.
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I think I will try it with a different pinion, I really don't want to go 5s or 6s maybe someone wants to trade me for a 1.5d or a 2d if they say there's is to fast?

I just don't want a dog at the track that won't be able to clear the triples at revelation, I am currently in northern california and will bringing it to so cal when I go visit family and thats the only time I can play with it so I don't have much time to play with it here and i want a looker not a hahhaha u should have went nitro from my friend down there who has nitro

I got it from qbayle when he had his rc8

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the 1.5d is preety nuts... i love it though. if i had a 2d i would totally run it just because it will yeild longer runtimes.
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Originally Posted by Davidka
If ROAR recognizes a 1/8 electric buggy class (I don't think they have rules for them one way or the other) they will almost definitely require hard cases on LiPos. It was a big point of contention for the 1/10 classes and it would be very inconsistent for them not to require them for 1/8th as they are heavier and harder crashing than smaller scales.
I agree on that, I can see them doing the hardcased lipo requirement. Part of the reason I am thinking that initially, we may see a dual pack setup of a 1/8 scale buggy get going first as an out of the box option, and who knows, maybe losi will make an electric 8ight and the appropriate hardcased lipo to go with it.

I still don't agree with roars decision on that and then saying you don't need hardcases for lipo receiver packs, or for lipos in general used for RC. I have seen receiver packs flying out of vehicles, as well as dropped batteries out of starter boxes. if the point is that lipos need to survive a drop test and hence have a hard case, they should have them too. Just a consistency issue.

Anyway, with things speeding up like they are, not sure what is going to happen as I think the whole 1/8 scale electric thing is going to come to a head a lot quicker than most think.


joyride: as for motors, you probably are better served just going with a hotter motor so you are not chasing gearing based on your speed need. If I was you, pop your item up on the boards or ebay, and keep an eye out for what you want.
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:30 AM
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or you can look at the organization that allowed lipos and brushless first, and allows any type of brushless system, and you can run your lipos

that banking tv commercial song comes to mind "hands in my pocket, hands in my pocket"
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Originally Posted by joyride153
I think I will try it with a different pinion, I really don't want to go 5s or 6s maybe someone wants to trade me for a 1.5d or a 2d if they say there's is to fast?

I just don't want a dog at the track that won't be able to clear the triples at revelation, I am currently in northern california and will bringing it to so cal when I go visit family and thats the only time I can play with it so I don't have much time to play with it here and i want a looker not a hahhaha u should have went nitro from my friend down there who has nitro

I got it from qbayle when he had his rc8
Well, If you want to change the motor that's fine, but, before you do that listen to this : my friend & I run Losi 8ights. He runs a 1512 1.5y and I run a 1512 2d everything else is the same as far as speed is concerned the cars are pretty much equal. I don't think he is left wanting in any area of motor performance. saying that however we are all speed junkies and that means that if he wants to gear up (if I do) so as to keep up with me on a track with a very long straight he will experience cogging (we tested it) even with the latest software update. but the MMM is due to be out in a short (we all hope) while and all that I said will be academic anyway, so...
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The RC8 has lowered geared diffs than the 8ight so you must run a larger pinion to run the same speed. Spend $12 on a pinion before you blow $250 on a motor.
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