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Old 05-07-2024, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Raul Garcia
Like Rhett had said, the only clearance issue for me too was the steering rack. I still use the plastic rack and plastic swing arms, so material had to be removed to allow properly smooth operation.

Rhett, which Schumacher ballstuds did you actually use on your car, and looks like Avid shims.

U8500 Ti Ball stud long U7824 Ti Pivot ball high at front camber mount
U8453 Ti ball stud short
Ball stud washers are Jconcepts 8111
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Can someone explain in real world terms the handling difference I would see between the regular springs vs the high response springs? I understand the less coils and thinner wire of the high response springs but how are two springs of the same rating different on the track?
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Originally Posted by Matt Howard
Can someone explain in real world terms the handling difference I would see between the regular springs vs the high response springs? I understand the less coils and thinner wire of the high response springs but how are two springs of the same rating different on the track?
I’m thinking the “high response“ springs Have a quicker rebound rate.
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Originally Posted by Matt Howard
Can someone explain in real world terms the handling difference I would see between the regular springs vs the high response springs? I understand the less coils and thinner wire of the high response springs but how are two springs of the same rating different on the track?
The high-response springs seem to be well suited for higher grip levels, like sealed clay on up to carpet. I ran them on med grip clay and had to tip toe through corners otherwise I'd push like crazy or snap oversteer, it was pretty unpredictable. Went to a standard response spring and car felt much more forgiving and easier to drive smoothly. The high response is in terms of your cars handling with the springs, it will react quicker and be more lively. Great on carpet where you can use that precision and aren't trying to generate more grip.
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ChocoTaco73 Do you know if the normal or high response springs come in the kit?
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I'm not sure off the top of my head, I'd lean towards normal response but not even the manual or the exploded diagram specify which it comes with.
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Originally Posted by staiguy
ChocoTaco73 Do you know if the normal or high response springs come in the kit?
High response come in the kit. I personally run high response rear with low response fronts.
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Originally Posted by speed90
High response come in the kit. I personally run high response rear with low response fronts.
Perhaps what people experience is a difference in actual rate, not anything to do with 'response'.. Show me some data and prove me wrong..
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Originally Posted by AntH3000
Perhaps what people experience is a difference in actual rate, not anything to do with 'response'.. Show me some data and prove me wrong..
Maybe, maybe not. But for the sake of everyone using the same terminology, folks call them “high response” as does the Schumacher factory.
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[QUOTE=staiguy;16100127]ChocoTaco73 Do you know if the normal or high response springs come in the kit?[/QUOTE

I stand corrected, High response Black front and High Response Green rear springs are in my LD3D kits
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Back to the topic of turnbuckles, found these AVIDs. Most interesting thing is no bend/break guarantee.



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1Up has the same guarantee. I slightly bent a Pro Duty turnbuckle on my B7, emailed 1Up support and had a replacement on the way the same day.
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Are there any alternative slipper eliminators/lockouts that work with the schumacher lockout topshaft? I'd like to be able to use more common spur gears like kimbrough, exotek, etc. that use 3 screws to hold them on rather than being restricted to just the schumacher spur gears that use the 4 pins for drive. I've tried a couple others but they haven't worked, seems like the schumacher shaft is slightly too big for the other slipper eliminators I've tried.
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Originally Posted by Brandon11m
Are there any alternative slipper eliminators/lockouts that work with the schumacher lockout topshaft? I'd like to be able to use more common spur gears like kimbrough, exotek, etc. that use 3 screws to hold them on rather than being restricted to just the schumacher spur gears that use the 4 pins for drive. I've tried a couple others but they haven't worked, seems like the schumacher shaft is slightly too big for the other slipper eliminators I've tried.
Not that I am aware of Brandon. You could make a Kimbrough spur fit, but have to drill out the spur gear. I have not done it, but tried to mock it up.
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Originally Posted by Brandon11m
Are there any alternative slipper eliminators/lockouts that work with the schumacher lockout topshaft? I'd like to be able to use more common spur gears like kimbrough, exotek, etc. that use 3 screws to hold them on rather than being restricted to just the schumacher spur gears that use the 4 pins for drive. I've tried a couple others but they haven't worked, seems like the schumacher shaft is slightly too big for the other slipper eliminators I've tried.
I actually have one designed. I just need to get the time to machine a few.

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