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Old 06-16-2020, 10:59 PM
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I believe Kyosho is not the 1st one makes the lipo layout.
Remember seeing some other brands did that, anyone can recall??
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Serpent did it on their last buggy, and I think its still an option on the new buggy.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dobalina
Serpent did it on their last buggy, and I think its still an option on the new buggy.
OK... I got confused.
It was the last serpent e buggy that offer this saddle pack layout... & now they has gone back to the conventional battery position in latest kit.

Must be some reasons why they switch back to the conventional batter position.

Same with 1/10 4wd.. the earlier version (maybe 7-8 years ago).. all came with the saddle lipo layout (required 2 x 1s lipo to work).
​Now, all offer 1 pcs 2s lipo side layout.

Again, must be some reasons why the saddle pack layout is not working well.
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​I wonder why
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Such an odd layout..
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For me it looks like a step back from the MP9 Evo.
These long motor cables look really weird and that brace above the motor just looks...wrong?
And I don't really like how that battery cables route above the receiver box. And although it might have some advantages you can't use your old 4S lipos if you are used to the EVO (or most of any other E-buggy).

Just my two cents
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For me it looks like a step back from the MP9 Evo.
These long motor cables look really weird and that brace above the motor just looks...wrong?
And I don't really like how that battery cables route above the receiver box. And although it might have some advantages you can't use your old 4S lipos if you are used to the EVO (or most of any other E-buggy).

Just my two cents
Agreed. Almost seems counterintuitive to have long wires running all over the place. It almost seems like the innards were shifted around just for the sake of change. The MP9E Evo has been excellent, I know that time will tell, but it'll need to be drastically better for me to switch especially with the double 2S battery setup. Just my personal opinion.....
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Originally Posted by hobbs
OK... I got confused.
It was the last serpent e buggy that offer this saddle pack layout... & now they has gone back to the conventional battery position in latest kit.

Must be some reasons why they switch back to the conventional batter position.

Same with 1/10 4wd.. the earlier version (maybe 7-8 years ago).. all came with the saddle lipo layout (required 2 x 1s lipo to work).
​Now, all offer 1 pcs 2s lipo side layout.

Again, must be some reasons why the saddle pack layout is not working well.
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​I wonder why
The new Serpent buggy can in fact be run in either brick or saddle configuration. Those who run it saddle say they do it get a more similar feeling to the nitro car. Maybe Kanai san is trying sometheing like that, but it looks very wide and not really well balanced left to right. The scales may disagree on the latter though...
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The SRX8e has a saddle option, but no one really ran the saddle packs, almost everyone ran the standard brick layout.
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On paper, the saddle pack layout should give a better balanced car & hence handling should be better.
Odd that it is not a preferred layout.
Norm is the brick layout & every manufacturer prefers to design it this way.

Not only 1/8, even in 1/10 4wd.
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Originally Posted by hobbs
I believe Kyosho is not the 1st one makes the lipo layout.
Remember seeing some other brands did that, anyone can recall??
the first was team Durango dex 408...later serpent 811 e-cobra ....
i think is the best layout for buggy but industry seems to follow the market and so not developed anymore.
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Originally Posted by hobbs
OK... I got confused.
It was the last serpent e buggy that offer this saddle pack layout... & now they has gone back to the conventional battery position in latest kit.

Must be some reasons why they switch back to the conventional batter position.

Same with 1/10 4wd.. the earlier version (maybe 7-8 years ago).. all came with the saddle lipo layout (required 2 x 1s lipo to work).
​Now, all offer 1 pcs 2s lipo side layout.

Again, must be some reasons why the saddle pack layout is not working well.
​lauout

​I wonder why
I dont think you can draw any conclusions from the move away from saddle packs in 1/10 buggies because this was driven by improved battery technology which allowed similar performance from a 'shorty' stick pack, which in turn allowed more layout options for tuning chassis balance and grip.
It wasnt that full size stick packs were better than saddles, it was that shorty packs offered more tuning options than saddles. Nobody runs a full size stick pack in a competitive 1/10 buggy any more.
I appreciate that this is specific to 1/10, but it's wrong to say that stick packs are better than saddles based on what happened in 1/10
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Good to know what you think.
Thanks.

If this saddle pack layout good?? I guess we will wait & see if they will revert to brick layout in MP11e
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Originally Posted by hobbs
Good to know what you think.
Thanks.

If this saddle pack layout good?? I guess we will wait & see if they will revert to brick layout in MP11e
Lets see...The MP9 came out Oct of 09..... So that will be when....Oct of 2030...?
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Originally Posted by bob.less
Lets see...The MP9 came out Oct of 09..... So that will be when....Oct of 2030...?
Well... maybe not called MP11e.
It can be MP10e evo just to change the batteru layout.
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