87LikesI am thinking about opening a New Indoor Off road Track.
11-14-2017, 11:40 AM
#46
We are doing a track here that we cannot keep down on a long term basis, the biggest factor is being able to secure the carpet relative to the cost of using sufficient taping methods to keep it still. And then, the clean up afterwards from residue on the floor. Its coming along, but I am curious on how it works out for other mobile tracks running on say ozite to both keep the carpet flat and still have a fast tear down.
11-14-2017, 12:05 PM
#47
Here's a recent clip from a local (covered/outdoor) turf track, I asked Ryan to test drive my car to help me test/tune my car's setup during a race clinic he co-hosted last week and then I shot some video during the tuning session.... to me this is the sweet spot of jumps and features with a nice flowing layout to handle 10-12 cars reasonably on a 60' x 100' track:
most fast guys are running around 20 sec laps in stock and around 19 sec laps in mod
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most fast guys are running around 20 sec laps in stock and around 19 sec laps in mod
11-14-2017, 02:19 PM
#49
Tech Adept
Our past few winter seasons have been temporary tracks. The crew that runs them uses wood for jumps and sheets of astro carpet (longer pile) that also allows for quick track changes.
Was nice just having to blow off the cars at the end of the runs compared to our outdoor dirt track where a rebuild is necessary on those "wet" days! I'd have to think the dirt is too messy inside, can't imagine the clean-up if ever needed.
Our onroad track is a setup / tear down in a day race every second weekend type of track. It works well since our setup allows for storing the track parts at the location.
Was nice just having to blow off the cars at the end of the runs compared to our outdoor dirt track where a rebuild is necessary on those "wet" days! I'd have to think the dirt is too messy inside, can't imagine the clean-up if ever needed.
Our onroad track is a setup / tear down in a day race every second weekend type of track. It works well since our setup allows for storing the track parts at the location.
11-14-2017, 06:32 PM
#50
My $0.02
Rules - think it through and establish good ones. If you're running turf or carpet decide what kinds of tires will be used before opening (rubber slick, rubber spike, or foam) and make it a rule. The wandering tire game can kill interest.
Control class-creep. If you wind up with a ton of classes your track could wind up being under participated and over time-burdened. Racing is always healthier when class count is controlled and it encourages racers to commit to classes and your track. If interest explodes, think about a "buggy night" or "SCT Saturday". Lots of racers are time constrained and morning to night racing just isn't practical for many.
And dirt. Turf and carpet is good for places where it rains a lot (like the UK) but a dirt track is authentic off road racing. When new racers see it and try it, they know it's special. I know clay is popular, many tracks in the Midwest use triple sifted topsoil. It's a rich dark dirt that sets up a lot like clay, holds up well, but is very easy to break up and work with. No need for chemicals, either.
Rules - think it through and establish good ones. If you're running turf or carpet decide what kinds of tires will be used before opening (rubber slick, rubber spike, or foam) and make it a rule. The wandering tire game can kill interest.
Control class-creep. If you wind up with a ton of classes your track could wind up being under participated and over time-burdened. Racing is always healthier when class count is controlled and it encourages racers to commit to classes and your track. If interest explodes, think about a "buggy night" or "SCT Saturday". Lots of racers are time constrained and morning to night racing just isn't practical for many.
And dirt. Turf and carpet is good for places where it rains a lot (like the UK) but a dirt track is authentic off road racing. When new racers see it and try it, they know it's special. I know clay is popular, many tracks in the Midwest use triple sifted topsoil. It's a rich dark dirt that sets up a lot like clay, holds up well, but is very easy to break up and work with. No need for chemicals, either.
11-15-2017, 07:54 AM
#51
If I was going to open a track, I think I'd do carpet with wood jumps. From a business perspective you'll have a cleaner facility that is easier to keep clean. And you'll probably be able to get by with a cheaper property if you don't need to be able to haul in truck-loads of dirt. Plus, then you don't need a water system. If you get the demand for it, you could even double up with on-road racing.
As for a portable track, that's how most UK clubs run, i local school halls etc. No reliance on a hobby shops success.
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