rahul01629

iTrader: (143)

No offence but if I would have done that buyer would still be angry saying no we decided on $350 and he would have posted a beware of rahul01629 thread here saying well we decide on 350 and now he is saying I have someone who is paying me more so are you willing to do the same.


Everyone has their views, cant keep everyone happy, I have been burnt before taking tokens to hold the stuff and I ended up with no sale.

How are you so sure buyer would have paid the rest of the amount the following day, what if he would have flipped out? Should I complaint about all the buyers who have flipped out on me saying they will send money tomorrow and never sent. No I will not do that because its their money. No money was exchanged, if the buyer wanted to pay upfront he would have done that and not asked for another day. Why did buyer needed an extra day to pay at first and why did he never mention about it before saying I will take it? Will I not think that if the buyer is so sure about buying it, why does he only want to an extra day.

rahul01629

iTrader: (143)

Thanks for mentioning about our transaction.

In the sale of mugen the buyer said ok I will take it. I sent him the paypal. Then he asks me about a particular part, if thats included or not. Then he asks me do you have the original box? Then asks me why are you selling it? After saying he will take it and then asking all these question making me think if he really wants it or not. then at last I find out he only wants to pay a token? what if he was buying some extra time to think about it, because for someone who really wanted a mugen mbx6eco brand new , my asking price of $350 + shipping was a steal for the right buyer ( considering all the extra stuff included all brand new). So in case I missed the deal all those going against me right now, how will they have helped, everyone would be just like O well stop crying about and you will get someone else to buy it.

RC*PHREAK

iTrader: (146)

he's not a car dealer, and technically he may not have done anything "wrong" but it's still shady to agree to a deal and then back out because someone offered more. in the real world is this an issue? no, but that's why people will give a deposit to hold the deal. in this case the seller said that wasn't necessary, which implies that the deal is done.

this is standard practice. 24 hours to pay. after that, deal is off and both parties are free to seek other deals. it's not "agree to deal AND seek better deal during 24 hour period.

when you're an rctech professional seller like you are, you should know what most people consider standard practice. if you agreed to the deal and gave the guy a day to pay and then sold it to someone for more, YOU ARE SHADY. while you may avoid negative feedback and technically broke no rules, what you did is wrong (if it went down as buyer said).

i disagree. that's still shady. once a deal is agreed to, it should be done. no more haggling, no more conditions. the deal is done. i've had this happen before. i took less than asking price and before the buyer paid, someone offered full asking. guess what? i told him the item was sold, but if the buyer backed out, he would be first in line.

rahul3246t2346 is another who sells ten million items on here (free of ebay fees), each with it's own thread yet he doesn't want to be held to the standard of a business. in the business world, your word is your bond. there's no room for technicalities. IMO, this is perfect use of the feedback section. while a neg may not be appropriate, i'll make sure not to do business with rahul as a result of this.

rahul01629

iTrader: (143)

I rest my case.

pilot8127

iTrader: (13)

I too have purchased from rahul01629 and it went smoothly. Great communication. Would absolutely buy from him again.

spookie

iTrader: (25)

Personally, I would never ask someone to hold an item for me. If I don't have the funds sitting, ready to pay, I don't commit, period. To ask someone to hold an item is putting them in an akward position imo. I will not be getting a hamburger today and paying Tuesday .

flou

iTrader: (18)

Oh I love it lol. That's funny right there.

RC*PHREAK

iTrader: (146)

i agree. i would never ask for it as a buyer and i wouldn't accept it as a seller. problem is in this case the seller apparently did agree to it. therein lies the problem.

it's an entirely personal choice. if you're cool with someone who hangs their hat on the technicality of "no money changed hands so there was no deal", that's totally up to you. for me, i personally don't want to do business with someone whose word is compromised by technicalities. i'm not saying rahul is a bad guy. i'm sure he's done business with many people who were happy. i'm not trying to rally the troops against him. just my .02.

Andy Koback

iTrader: (280)

Now...if rahul would've taken the (token,down payment) and rest of payment never happened, he would be entitled to keep the token for the purpose of losing the deal? (like losing a deposit) What's proper etiquette here?

flou

iTrader: (18)

I just found the Popeye reference funny lol.

flou

iTrader: (18)

That's a good question and point. I bet if rest of payment was never made buyer would want token down returned.but is that right. Cuz buyer could have missed countless full payments or even same payment negotiated with token payor. And most people buying are here to spend. They don't buy from you they find next best deal.that's a tough one. Sellers have taught me that money talks period.not money tomorrow. But money now. Alot of guys selling cuz they need the money. I do understand ops side. His understanding was deal is closed. They agreed to terms.did buyer request add be marked deal pending? To stop potential buyers from scooping up from under him? I really see no need to be upset. I have missed bunches of opportunities to purchase something for needing a day. I have learned in my experience with wanting to purchase of I can't say I want it payment ready now there's a95%chance I miss it. If that's the case it wasn't meant for me to buy! But I do feel there was a valuable lesson learned by both. Could be wrong. Just my 2 cents lol

RobsRacin

iTrader: (13)

If the seller and buyer both agree to something, thats what I like to call the virtual handshake. Doesn't matter if money changes hand or anything else, you agreed to a deal(as long as OP's story is true). If Nissan said he would pay you the next day(it is also a weekend not like you can ship same day as it is), and rahul agreed, than its a deal and BOTH parties need to honor that agreement. If Nissan didn't end up paying then it would of been shame on him, but instead its shame on you rahul. Had you kept your word you would of still gotten your money and buyer would of gotten what they wanted. You aren't a proper businessman, and this only makes me not want to do business with you. For someone who seems to have tens of for sale threads up and probably doing many transactions I would of thought maybe you would have better practices than this

TeamSkunkwerks

iTrader: (142)

If a deposit was made to hold the item, then the seller would keep the deposit, if the buyer never completes the deal. BUT....if the deposit was made contingent (or pending) towards the purchase of the item, & the SELLER backed out, then the BUYER is entitled to the deposit back in full!!

imprsme

iTrader: (91)

What if the "deposit" is sent thru PayPal. Then the buyer files a claim. After they didn't pay the remaining balance after say a week and the item is then sold to someone else.

Do you guys think Pp is going to honor the "deposit"?

I know I have asked ppl to hold items. But I wouldn't be mad if they sold them to someone that had cash in hand.

On the other hand I have lost sales waiting on ppl to come up with the $$$.

I mean in the reality of it. It's for an rc item.

Nissanguy8

iTrader: (20)

Yes I did ask the seller to mark it as "SOLD" and he said don't worry I will do it in a few hours!!!!! A few hours went by alright, and it was SOLD to someone else!!!!!

If I was going to back out of the deal and not pay the next day, I would have not told him to mark it as sold! Then everybody would have seen that I was the jerk that didn't pay the next day, but my intent on wanting him to mark it as sold so people would have known it was sold.

My whole point to put up the post was for people to know and not make the same mistake I made, but the seller still thinks he did nothing wrong (his opinion) and does not acknowledge that.

I just think it was a shady thing to do and I would never do that to anyone after giving someone my word!

Yes I ask a lot of questions, am I not entitled to ask questions?? we spoke on the phone for almost 10 minutes, and I thought we were good to go!