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Old 04-03-2014, 03:24 AM
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Considering we have just changed over to 13.5 blinky, hopefully some common sense will allow us to use the motors for the rest of the year and then we go again with new motors next year.

Let's face it we are just collateral damage but it's disappointing that ROAR couldn't be upfront with their own racers regarding the status of the D3.5's.
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Why dont AARCMCC make a statement allowing it for use for the rest of the year or for the next (X) amount of months?
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Old 04-03-2014, 05:31 PM
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Because AARCMCC uses Roar as the basis for what motors / esc's / batteries are legal.
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Old 04-03-2014, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nexxus
Because AARCMCC uses Roar as the basis for what motors / esc's / batteries are legal.
Clearly....

They did use to approve their own motors as well, how ever they stopped this.
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Originally Posted by kid TT-01
Clearly....

They did use to approve their own motors as well, how ever they stopped this.
The 2014 AARCMCC edition of the rules needs just a minor tidy up, but to clarify:
  • Motors on either of the ROAR and BRCA lists are legal
  • An Australian distributor can apply to have a motor approved.

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If trinity hadn't tried to cheat by using oversized wire, then all the people with motors that are meant to be banned wouldn't have a problem!
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Originally Posted by Canada 95
If trinity hadn't tried to cheat by using oversized wire, then all the people with motors that are meant to be banned wouldn't have a problem!
That's not the issue, the issue is there was no warning that the 13.5 was going off the list as well. If we knew, people wouldnt have gone and spent the money on spare motors, let alone by the tuned versions like some people have.
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Originally Posted by Canada 95
If trinity hadn't tried to cheat by using oversized wire, then all the people with motors that are meant to be banned wouldn't have a problem!
It was demonstrated by multiple sources that the 17.5 D3.5 did not meet required specifications.

This is not true of the 13.5 D3.5. If there is reliable evidence to the contrary, then we'd like to see it.

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That's not the issue, the issue is there was no warning that the 13.5 was going off the list as well. If we knew, people wouldnt have gone and spent the money on spare motors, let alone by the tuned versions like some people have.
Yes, like others, I spent money on new motors believing it to be informed decision. The time-bound nature of the 17.5 approval was well understood. This is not true of the 13.5.
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Originally Posted by PDR
The 2014 AARCMCC edition of the rules needs just a minor tidy up, but to clarify:
  • Motors on either of the ROAR and BRCA lists are legal
  • An Australian distributor can apply to have a motor approved.

Phil.
Thx phil brca list is here: http://www.brca.org/sites/www.brca.o...20v1%20pdf.pdf

This solves the killshot not being listed but the d3.5 13.5t issue still remains.
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Originally Posted by lookieaefanboi
This solves the killshot not being listed but the d3.5 13.5t issue still remains.
The BRCA site can be "interesting" to navigate. Try finding their list of approved blinky speedies without using Google

The Killshot is legal according to ROAR. Their switch to using the forum for publishing approvals is a bit confusing, but explained in this ROAR forum post:

"Welcome to the new Motor Approval section of the forum. This is intended to replace the motor list that currently resides on the ROAR website. This new section adds to the existing list, a number of new motors are are approved based on their arrival date, as confirmed by shipper tracking data. Over time, the list on ROARRacing.com will be transferred to the forum list, which will eventually be the sole source of motor approval information."

Ref: http://roarracing.org/4rmb/showthrea...n-of-the-forum

That does make it a little awkward for a race director, but the new format does have good info in it.
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Originally Posted by PDR
It was demonstrated by multiple sources that the 17.5 D3.5 did not meet required specifications.

This is not true of the 13.5 D3.5. If there is reliable evidence to the contrary, then we'd like to see it.



Yes, like others, I spent money on new motors believing it to be informed decision. The time-bound nature of the 17.5 approval was well understood. This is not true of the 13.5.
i think all but one car in the stock finals were D3.5 in ACT titles....The odd one out was the Orca.....
Roar and the motor supplier have had long enough to approve new motors and review old old ones.....would be good if it was a little more consistent and timely
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Originally Posted by PDR
The BRCA site can be "interesting" to navigate. Try finding their list of approved blinky speedies without using Google

The Killshot is legal according to ROAR. Their switch to using the forum for publishing approvals is a bit confusing, but explained in this ROAR forum post:

"Welcome to the new Motor Approval section of the forum. This is intended to replace the motor list that currently resides on the ROAR website. This new section adds to the existing list, a number of new motors are are approved based on their arrival date, as confirmed by shipper tracking data. Over time, the list on ROARRacing.com will be transferred to the forum list, which will eventually be the sole source of motor approval information."

Ref: http://roarracing.org/4rmb/showthrea...n-of-the-forum

That does make it a little awkward for a race director, but the new format does have good info in it.

It makes it more than a little awkward for a Race Director and Scrutineers. What you really want to do is just print off a list to be used by the one or two people working on what is usually an overfull table in dusty conditions. It's only a matter of time before ROAR's hodge-podge listing method creates a controversy at one of our meetings.
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Originally Posted by JAM Racing
i think all but one car in the stock finals were D3.5 in ACT titles....The odd one out was the Orca.....
Had circumstances been different, would've been confident of putting a Reedy into the A Main
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Originally Posted by JAM Racing
i think all but one car in the stock finals were D3.5 in ACT titles....The odd one out was the Orca.....
Roar and the motor supplier have had long enough to approve new motors and review old old ones.....would be good if it was a little more consistent and timely
Really? In the WA States for 13.5, 1st and 2nd were X20 LRP's and 3rd was a Speed Passion MMM, I don't think anyone had a D3.5
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Originally Posted by nexxus
Really? In the WA States for 13.5, 1st and 2nd were X20 LRP's and 3rd was a Speed Passion MMM, I don't think anyone had a D3.5
Yes Really.......
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