Issues with Tamiya TRF 415 - Please note
04-12-2004, 09:00 PM
#16
Originally posted by PaulG
rcmaster: So you have sold 14 of this kits. how many have you made yourself? if you know how to read a manual you would find the answer to your problems. I have built a few of this cars now and have had none of the problems that you are stating.
I have looked at your store online and I was thinking of buying stuff from you but after your dumb arse statements about this kit that is designed for pro racers and builders I think I'll rethink buying from you.
Things that you forgot to mention, if you felt you needed to point somethings out for the first time buyer, you might have told them the following
1. the kit comes with wheels but no tyres
2. the kit also does not come with a body shell
3. the chassis DOES require some sanding in the battery slots, this will mark the chassis.
Now that would have been helpful.
Do you really think that Tamiya would release a car that didn't fit together properly; I think not, it's not in their interest.
Maybe you should built the kit before you comment on its problems, I have built mine and have raced it and I think it is one of the best kits I have ever built and driven.
Think before you speak
Paul
rcmaster: So you have sold 14 of this kits. how many have you made yourself? if you know how to read a manual you would find the answer to your problems. I have built a few of this cars now and have had none of the problems that you are stating.
I have looked at your store online and I was thinking of buying stuff from you but after your dumb arse statements about this kit that is designed for pro racers and builders I think I'll rethink buying from you.
Things that you forgot to mention, if you felt you needed to point somethings out for the first time buyer, you might have told them the following
1. the kit comes with wheels but no tyres
2. the kit also does not come with a body shell
3. the chassis DOES require some sanding in the battery slots, this will mark the chassis.
Now that would have been helpful.
Do you really think that Tamiya would release a car that didn't fit together properly; I think not, it's not in their interest.
Maybe you should built the kit before you comment on its problems, I have built mine and have raced it and I think it is one of the best kits I have ever built and driven.
Think before you speak
Paul
Firstly, I have built the TRF 415 and I have not experienced the issues that my buyers are having. I have not said that everyone will experience these problems!
Secondly, to state that this TRF 415 kit is for Pro Racers and builders is terribly wrong. We have a range of skilled and non-skilled buyers, and I think you should re-read the posts and understand the content before touching the keyboard again.
thirdly, the 3 issues you mentioned are all covered in the Instruction manual that comes with the kit. Now - Tell me something that everyone else who bought the kit doesnt know!
Finally, this thread is not designed to display whos private parts are the biggest. SO contribute to assisting others, their questions and using your brain instead of your ....... or sit down, shut up and pull your head out.
Regards,
RC Master International
04-12-2004, 09:03 PM
#17
dude!
04-12-2004, 09:07 PM
#18
mate, enough slanging, but i can tell you paul is one of the nicest guys you will meet he spends all his time on raceday helping people set up there cars in between his races, and volunteers his time to marshall and help officiate the meets.
dood, the screw issue in the suspension arms is more than adequately explained in the manual , so you are shooting your own foot.
any way i'm over this thread.
dood, the screw issue in the suspension arms is more than adequately explained in the manual , so you are shooting your own foot.
any way i'm over this thread.
04-12-2004, 09:12 PM
#19
rcmaster: so, do you by from an overseas wholesaler ?
04-12-2004, 09:14 PM
#20
RCMaster said:
To avoid damage to the Blue anodised ball joints during attachment to various plastic components, it is recommended that a screw of similar size and thread is used to "pre-thread" the hole before the installation of the anodised part. This will dramatically reduce scratching made by the Tamiya spanner to these parts.
I'd say
The kit does come with a cheap spanner. I use the Tamiya blue turnbuckle spanner and didn't mark the turnbuckles at all however a small adjustable spanner would work just as affectively
RCMaster said:
The TRF 415 kit does not include a pinion motor gear! You will need to purchase one of these separate to the kit.
I'd say:
True statement, however you will find it difficult to find a pinion to fit the supplied spur, I have found that it is easier to buy a new spur and pinion other then trying to find a pinion to fit the supplied spur. Tamiya doesn't supply a pinion that fits that spur gear, or so I am lead to believe.
Cheers
Paul Griffin
To avoid damage to the Blue anodised ball joints during attachment to various plastic components, it is recommended that a screw of similar size and thread is used to "pre-thread" the hole before the installation of the anodised part. This will dramatically reduce scratching made by the Tamiya spanner to these parts.
I'd say
The kit does come with a cheap spanner. I use the Tamiya blue turnbuckle spanner and didn't mark the turnbuckles at all however a small adjustable spanner would work just as affectively
RCMaster said:
The TRF 415 kit does not include a pinion motor gear! You will need to purchase one of these separate to the kit.
I'd say:
True statement, however you will find it difficult to find a pinion to fit the supplied spur, I have found that it is easier to buy a new spur and pinion other then trying to find a pinion to fit the supplied spur. Tamiya doesn't supply a pinion that fits that spur gear, or so I am lead to believe.
Cheers
Paul Griffin
04-12-2004, 09:19 PM
#21
Originally posted by TRF_StEvE
yeah well thats all cool, but why didnt he tell every customer who baught a 415 after he found out about the issue ( or simply read tha manual in the first place) about said issues ?
this post just rubbed me the wrong way.
yeah well thats all cool, but why didnt he tell every customer who baught a 415 after he found out about the issue ( or simply read tha manual in the first place) about said issues ?
this post just rubbed me the wrong way.
We must question where this post has put you off side.
The original post and its content was carefully stated so as not to put people off buying the TRF 415, and was intended to be informative and proactive in its intent
To be honest - We at RC Master believe it to be the best kit from Tamiya for a long time...
Thats not to say that every kit will be exactly the same, just as every real car on the road has its own individual characteristics, qwerks and so on. Injection moulding is very accurate, but not perfect, and after these kits come to Australia imported from Japan in a container that isn't refridgerated (reaching up to 80 deg inside), then handled from agent to supplier, then to consumer, something has to give.
Regards,
RC Master International
04-12-2004, 09:33 PM
#22
Originally posted by rcmaster.net.au
Dear Paul,
Firstly, I have built the TRF 415 and I have not experienced the issues that my buyers are having. I have not said that everyone will experience these problems!
Secondly, to state that this TRF 415 kit is for Pro Racers and builders is terribly wrong. We have a range of skilled and non-skilled buyers, and I think you should re-read the posts and understand the content before touching the keyboard again.
thirdly, the 3 issues you mentioned are all covered in the Instruction manual that comes with the kit. Now - Tell me something that everyone else who bought the kit doesnt know!
Finally, this thread is not designed to display whos private parts are the biggest. SO contribute to assisting others, their questions and using your brain instead of your ....... or sit down, shut up and pull your head out.
Regards,
RC Master International
Dear Paul,
Firstly, I have built the TRF 415 and I have not experienced the issues that my buyers are having. I have not said that everyone will experience these problems!
Secondly, to state that this TRF 415 kit is for Pro Racers and builders is terribly wrong. We have a range of skilled and non-skilled buyers, and I think you should re-read the posts and understand the content before touching the keyboard again.
thirdly, the 3 issues you mentioned are all covered in the Instruction manual that comes with the kit. Now - Tell me something that everyone else who bought the kit doesnt know!
Finally, this thread is not designed to display whos private parts are the biggest. SO contribute to assisting others, their questions and using your brain instead of your ....... or sit down, shut up and pull your head out.
Regards,
RC Master International
1. I'm glad that you have built one. So if you have not had the problems, what is the difference in you kit to theirs, and the few that I have built?
2. This is a pro kit, or do you class the TL-01 kit in the same class as the TRF-415?
3. If the issues I mention are so clearly laid out in the manual and it has been pointed out in earlier post that the problem you refer to are in the manual then what is you post about? Would you not suggest that you clients should read the manual more closely?
As for the personal attack on me, I can deal with that. You have your little rant about dick size. Remember this, "Frustration is commonly the difference between what you would like to be and what you are willing to sacrifice to become what you would like to be."
But more importantly I expect people to be better than they are; it helps them to become better. But don't be disappointed when they are not; it helps them to keep trying.
Kindest regards
Paul Griffin
04-12-2004, 10:10 PM
#23
Originally posted by PaulG
[B]Ok let’s brake this down a little more.
1. I'm glad that you have built one. So if you have not had the problems, what is the difference in you kit to theirs, and the few that I have built?
[B]Ok let’s brake this down a little more.
1. I'm glad that you have built one. So if you have not had the problems, what is the difference in you kit to theirs, and the few that I have built?
2. This is a pro kit, or do you class the TL-01 kit in the same class as the TRF-415?
3. If the issues I mention are so clearly laid out in the manual and it has been pointed out in earlier post that the problem you refer to are in the manual then what is you post about? Would you not suggest that you clients should read the manual more closely?
As for the personal attack on me, I can deal with that. You have your little rant about dick size. Remember this, "Frustration is commonly the difference between what you would like to be and what you are willing to sacrifice to become what you would like to be."
We are glad that this got your attention.
But more importantly I expect people to be better than they are; it helps them to become better. But don't be disappointed when they are not; it helps them to keep trying..
Understand this - it is not our intention to be better than anyone on this forum. If comments from anyone prove to be informative, then we applaud the effort that goes into writing them. Just remember - not everyone out there will read the manual 110%, and not everyone out there understands the manual 110% either.
In this case, you may just be the exception.
Regards,
RC Master International.
04-12-2004, 10:51 PM
#24
Tech Regular
Just one question?
Are these kits bought through Toy Traders, the Australian Distributor?
Regards
Timmy
Regards
Timmy
04-12-2004, 10:55 PM
#25
I know mine was, my local hobby shop got them in after toy fair and I know that he buys from toy trades.
Cheers
Paul griffin
Cheers
Paul griffin
04-12-2004, 10:58 PM
#26
Tech Regular
Originally posted by PaulG
I know mine was, my local hobby shop got them in after toy fair and I know that he buys from toy trades.
Cheers
Paul griffin
I know mine was, my local hobby shop got them in after toy fair and I know that he buys from toy trades.
Cheers
Paul griffin
04-12-2004, 11:17 PM
#27
yeah mine was to and i know for a fact it was the first legitamate one released !
there either baught overseas and imported, or baught from toy traders and he makes f*ck all out of them , which indicates low oberheads as in NO SHOP ?
computer industry is bad like this there's backyarders who can under cut you to get the sale, but they never last...
there either baught overseas and imported, or baught from toy traders and he makes f*ck all out of them , which indicates low oberheads as in NO SHOP ?
computer industry is bad like this there's backyarders who can under cut you to get the sale, but they never last...
Last edited by fatdoggy; 04-13-2004 at 11:16 AM.
04-12-2004, 11:26 PM
#28
Tech Regular
Originally posted by TRF_StEvE
yeah mine was to and i know for a fact it was the first legitamate one released !
there either baught overseas and imported, or baught from toy traders and he makes f*ck all out of them , which indicates low oberheads as in NO SHOP ?
computer industry is bad like this there's backyarders who can under cut you to get the sale, but they never last...
yeah mine was to and i know for a fact it was the first legitamate one released !
there either baught overseas and imported, or baught from toy traders and he makes f*ck all out of them , which indicates low oberheads as in NO SHOP ?
computer industry is bad like this there's backyarders who can under cut you to get the sale, but they never last...
Does RCMASTER plan on selling Dangun Racers?
Last edited by fatdoggy; 04-13-2004 at 11:16 AM.
04-12-2004, 11:54 PM
#29
who cares where they were purchased from toy traders or OS..
As long as he is selling them a good cheap prices.. "which they are" as long as new racers and hobbiest are more attracted to the sport because of the cheap prices..
doesnt it make cense to support rc-master..
As long as he is selling them a good cheap prices.. "which they are" as long as new racers and hobbiest are more attracted to the sport because of the cheap prices..
doesnt it make cense to support rc-master..
04-12-2004, 11:58 PM
#30
Tech Regular
Originally posted by Painy
who cares where they were purchased from toy traders or OS..
As long as he is selling them a good cheap prices.. "which they are" as long as new racers and hobbiest are more attracted to the sport because of the cheap prices..
doesnt it make cense to support rc-master..
who cares where they were purchased from toy traders or OS..
As long as he is selling them a good cheap prices.. "which they are" as long as new racers and hobbiest are more attracted to the sport because of the cheap prices..
doesnt it make cense to support rc-master..
I really dont care where they get them from either, makes no difference as far as im concerened.
I just want a local Dangun Racer supplier.
XXX
Timmy