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Old 02-19-2010 | 01:21 AM
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and while your there tell 888 and hrt that they cant get the lastest and better cars so that the others can keep up !! or maybe tell chad reed that he has to ride a 80's bike so other can keep up !!
its seems thats its always the slower guys that complain about the same thing ! no matter what changes we make its always going to be the same guys winning !!
I'm not actually having a winge, just making a comment (and I do pretty well on the track). And yes, I'm also joining the dark side (already have one timing advance ESC with a 2nd on the way). The point I'm trying to make is as soon as someone (a manufacture) works out how to take advantage of the rules everyone else will jump on board.

Weather this is a good thing, I'm not sure, its not killed racing yet but I can see the need for either thought to be given to the current 17.5 and 10.5 rules or the development of a TC class that is slower and aimed at lower budgets where the equipment does not need to be turned over every 12 months while being flexible enough to allow people to use older equipment from the 10.5/17.5.

21.5 seems to be gaining popularity and presents an opportunity to perhaps reinvent the 'Stock Class', the two 540 based classes at my club that allow these motors are now almost entirely 21.5 and this year Challenge Cup is introducing a 21.5 class. Perhaps we could use full scale motor racing as a basis and introduce a 'lite' version of TC spec racing. Cars open, motors 21.5 and the battery, ESC (and ESC firmware) and motor must all have been available in the market for over two years with the list of approved equipment being updated at the start of every year.

I'm not critisting anyone but its a shame that when the BL motor rules were developed nobody thought to include a line indicating that the timing must be locked (as it was for the brushed motors).

I was doing some testing recently and a friend who used to race mod was watching my car indicated that it looked as though it was going as fast as a 9t from the old days.
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Old 02-19-2010 | 02:21 AM
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Looks like LRP have Tekin by the balls again with their new speedie and there aint no more updates comin out for the Tekin RS so keep your eyes open for a new speedie from them.
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Old 02-19-2010 | 03:35 AM
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and there aint no more updates comin out for the Tekin RS so keep your eyes open for a new speedie from them.
wow, Tekin have an R&D expert in Sydney going by the codename of Vazzo , and let me guess.....you are basing this on practice from TITC or something similar......ppaaaaaarrrrrrrleeeeeeese

Even if they do need to I would buy it........2 words "FREE UPDATES"
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Old 02-19-2010 | 04:56 AM
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S**T!!! My covers been blown, now Im going to have to go and work for Hobbywing
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Old 02-19-2010 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by B4james
wow, Tekin have an R&D expert in Sydney going by the codename of Vazzo , and let me guess.....you are basing this on practice from TITC or something similar......ppaaaaaarrrrrrrleeeeeeese

Even if they do need to I would buy it........2 words "FREE UPDATES"
james after running my ssx stock spec tonight those tekins have just been put back another 2 years !
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Old 02-19-2010 | 07:19 AM
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james after running my ssx stock spec tonight those tekins have just been put back another 2 years !
where did you get your sxx stock spec from?

I gather its the version1.

any cogging?
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Old 02-19-2010 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by captain stacker
where did you get your sxx stock spec from?

I gather its the version1.

any cogging?
so far perfect . Massive gain on spx !! Cant wait too use it at titc even more excited now !!
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Old 02-19-2010 | 07:25 AM
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james after running my ssx stock spec tonight those tekins have just been put back another 2 years !
If it is the case and I do say IF, I'll just wait for the next free Tekin update

On the other hand you had better start saving again for the SXX Stock Spec V2 that will be needed when the next software round begins
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Old 02-19-2010 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by B4james
If it is the case and I do say IF, I'll just wait for the next free Tekin update

On the other hand you had better start saving again for the SXX Stock Spec V2 that will be needed when the next software round begins
mate like i said its taken tekin 2 years to catch up to lrp's but dont worry in 2 years if they come up with something its FREE as u say
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Old 02-19-2010 | 07:50 AM
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Ultimitely it comes down to the men behind the wheel and the Tekin has done me just fine over the past year and a half and I have always had plenty of speed on tap.
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Old 02-19-2010 | 08:05 AM
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mate like i said its taken tekin 2 years to catch up to lrp's but dont worry in 2 years if they come up with something its FREE as u say
Yes but the difference is that the tekin with pre 203 software was still competitive. Depending on the track the SXX was marginally quicker. Now the sxx is just not competitive.

But any hardware can become out of date quickly. Tekin with their updateable firmware have started a new trend being copied by others. And note that the RS/R1 was not the first esc they produced with such functionality built into it.

It has also allowed them to make adjustments to their speedies. For example 1s lipo in 12th scale including 1s lipo cutoff.
Does the SXX actually have 1s lipo cut off?
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Old 02-19-2010 | 01:55 PM
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We have a guy at the track with one that he picked up from the Snowbirds and he is a bloody rocket and he was up against 3 good Tekin drivers. I'm just stirring the pot though, I mean speed is one thing to achieve but as b4 said it comes down to the man behind the wheel.

It will be interesting to see what Tekin can do now to compete against the sxx stock spec.
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Old 02-19-2010 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by B4james
Ultimitely it comes down to the men behind the wheel
more then 80% of it comes down to this !!

Originally Posted by mangoman
Yes but the difference is that the tekin with pre 203 software was still competitive. Depending on the track the SXX was marginally quicker. Now the sxx is just not competitive.



But any hardware can become out of date quickly. Tekin with their updateable firmware have started a new trend being copied by others. And note that the RS/R1 was not the first esc they produced with such functionality built into it.

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It has also allowed them to make adjustments to their speedies. For example 1s lipo in 12th scale including 1s lipo cutoff.
Does the SXX actually have 1s lipo cut off?
wouldn't say the spx/sxx tc are not competitive against 203 its just that the few faster guys brought or got the new soft-ware and doubled the gap to others! at windsor one of the guys is running the tc ssx and is less then .1 of the tekin which looks like a 10.5 but will be interesting to see how gav goes when he gets the ssx stock spec in thew next few weeks !
from what ive heard the new designs in software have put tekin on the edge its design with that speedy! but like i said i heard a rumor !

the new lrp is the same doing 12th no need for booster etc!

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We have a guy at the track with one that he picked up from the Snowbirds and he is a bloody rocket and he was up against 3 good Tekin drivers. I'm just stirring the pot though, I mean speed is one thing to achieve but as b4 said it comes down to the man behind the wheel.

It will be interesting to see what Tekin can do now to compete against the sxx stock spec.
stirring the pot is always fun ! but give it 2 years and tekin will come up with a free something !

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