Didn't see any rubber tyres on their cars !!!

A QUOTE from 2 of the Mexicans running in Stock Class

A QUOTE from King G

A QUOTE from Bersercoe
And I found it rather strange at the worlds the TEAMS had to SAUCE there rubbers to get them to work, and to the point for some teams, that the tyres were stuffed after 1 heat !!!

King G, I knew that I would get you to bite on this but when you make rediculous statements of just putting the one compound of tyre on a car and it's dialed, prove to be total rubbish for some of your fellow Vic's.
You do have to setup your car around foam tyres just as much as you do with rubber tyres is the point I want to get across.

By the way KingG, I am testing the Take Off 27's at the moment with fairly good success at Castle Hill, But when I purchased them from Chris P at Metro's, he even stated that you will get less than 10 runs from the tyres in mod class.

To finish it all off (dragging my nuckles across the key board) all I can say is
COME IN SPINNER

Fastol...

every competitive racer will always use what is outright fastest..even if it is a tenth per lap, you run what is going to allow you to be the quickest on that particular track...

Last time I came to Kambah I raced group 20 in the summer nats...I was the only racer out of 48 in the class to run rubbers..In a full field of foams, I finished 3rd.

For the 2002 Nationals again at Kambah.I had decided to run Foams, as I wanted to be as competitive as possible.
I had around 8 new sets of Ufras all trued to 58mm.

I spent each round checking Tire diameters, truing tires, changing rollout to compensate for tire wear, changing ride height, checking camber, droop, applying sauce at the crucial minute, then making sure I removed it at the right time...

Allot of work!..all unecessary..Rubbers dont noticably change in Diameter, therefore settings are consistant, and you can spend this time to actually fine tune your car.

as for setups...

my Base rubber setup which was developed for racing TFTR on rubber tires put me 7th in the A final in Mod at the Nationals, my first Mod Nats and first time ever using spongies...

and yes, I just slapped on some 40's front and rear......lol

Perhaps those 2 guys you referred to in stock might have been having trouble setting their cars up period!...they might not have the best setups for their cars, the new track etc....

you still need an idea on car setup or a decent setup to begin with...
I believe I stated that a dialled asphalt setup on rubber will kickass on foam...
I dont believe I said you dont need a setup for foams.!

sorry but you are only quoting selectivly and seeing such a small picture..

good luck racing anywhere outside your little world of N.S.W / Qld in electric, fine if you are never going to race interstate, but the point is, you are living in teh past and a standardised set of rules needs to be implemented across Australia as the rest of the world have done...the current situation is a joke!

In summer we get 10 - 20 runs in mod on T.O 27...in colder conditions we get around 30 runs..ITs all about car setup.

sure an understeering car can wear out tires quicker. but the trick to rubber tires is perfecting car setup, and driving the car correctly, not just yanking the throttle and wheel like a rockape.

distorted facts to make your point...?

We all used traction juice in the Mod A main on foams at the nationals...!!!

the Orion tire chosen as the Control tire at the worlds was simply an incorrect compound choice, it was a unanimous opinion by all racers that a harder compound should have been used, and when the tire was chosen, they hadnt decided to sugar water the track...combined with the scorching temps creates exessive tire wear..The tire worked flawlessly at the warmup race, on a non prepped track and in more favourable conditions.

you dont have to be a genius to work this out...just try running a 25 compound foamies front and rear on a 40 degree day...try and tell me they will last.

Fastol...show me the money...heheh..stir stir

King-G please tell me this isnt true, yanking the throttle and throwing it through the corners is all i am good at, why do you think i bought a noisy tourer, you even get to back it in with them

now comon vercoe, i watched your qualifier at the Nats that got you into the A..you did something right, because you dislodged a few racers who were favoured to place highly...

what came over you?..i didnt see any sideways action, or rockape steering that run..lol

I'm sorry to go on about the topic Fastolfart, and my points arent directed at you in particular, but it upsets me to see Australia so far behind the rest of the world, on this matter. We need a unified set of rules Australia wide, in line with what all the organisisng bodies across the world are doing.

The guys from S.A Frensham, Khemlani who raced at the metro masters, went home vowing not to use foams again, after seeing how good our racing is..

In fact they broke the existing track record back home which was previously held By Ash using foams within 2 weeks of using Takeoffs...

I believe they are still using rubbers at their home track..and are coming across to race with us at hoppers.

It must have been all of the bourbon and the visit to the shady side of town the night before, thanks must go to marty for that one, the lapdance from the amazon woman in the green lingerie was fantastic.


Plan on making that a regular part of my pre race meeting training from now on the secret to success

the "AC" use to call this type of activity prior to a big meet "setup", just ask tabmow69...

"AC" ???

Keep danglin the line

Keep reelin them in

"Air Conditioning"

Gotta keep this thread ontop some how !!
Now lets start a fight over which software is better for racing ??
AlyCat or SlyFox ??
From what i saw of SlyFox at the DestructoNuts, it doesn't run electric meetings too well.
Now this is on observation bassis only, if some one else has had more experience for the set up of these meetings,
please voice a comment !!!!!

yes i'm not sure if slyfox handles AAA finals...?

the best timing app u can get is SPARC by AMB, only problem is it's price....$$$$

i think for what it can do alycat is hard to go past... look at the cost and options, its biggest problem is the lack of user knowledge (or at least thats my reckoning of it over several years of use)

its other big problem is that it relys on windoze to work the same way all the time

it would be much better off with mac os or linux

getting back to rubber v's foam.... there are some things i'd love to add but am too fearful that bersecoe will flame me and make me be his pit bitsh again

Now, don't start that again, at least for another 6 days

But we are all sure you enjoy being Bersercoe's Pit Bitsh

Well I think Slyfox seems to be error or crash free. Many other race meets I have seen other app die and crash time after time while Slyfox never seems to have a problem. I am sure the AAA final thing is just the way you set it up and should work with no problem at all.

Coxy.

While it involves a Humans & computers, it will never be error or crash free !!
I have seen Sly Fox crash, and they lost all the race information to that point and could not recover what was lost.

I am not having a shot at Sly Fox, as I personaly have not used the program.

I personaly could not tell you which program is better out of the two, but I have been running Alycat for quite some time now, and the only time the program has failed was my fault for changing a setting durring a race. (it missed 2 cars going over the loop)

We need a Sly Fox opperator to inform us of the programs opperation and success for electric meetings with the 3 A finals.
Remeber that Sly Fox was used for the 1/8th scale world championships in Sydney with great success