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Old 01-15-2010 | 11:19 PM
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Interclub 2010 dates:
QRCCCRA 13 – 14 March
SCRCCC 15 – 16 May
LCRCCC 3 – 4 July
BRCCC 30 – 31 October


Point scoring has been changed.

There will be points for all finishing positions; not only for the A final. The system will work as follows: The points awarded in each class will be relative to the number of entries in the class. A class with 30 entries will have points allocated from 30 (A final winner) to 1 for the stone motherless in the C final. Each A finalists will have 5 points added to their points. For classes with less than 10 entries; drivers score points based on finishing positions and on a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 basis with 5 points added to each A finalist. This will allow any driver that makes an effort to represent their club to contribute to the club’s result, and acknowledges that the competition could sometimes be a little stronger perhaps in a class with about 30 entries, than in one with only about 7 entries.

There will be trophies for 1st, 2nd and 3rd A finals with concourse and best Junior.

Entry fees will be $ 30.00 for first class ($5.00 increase from last year) and $10.00 for second class, with under 16s paying $20.00 for 1st and $10.00 for 2nd. Those who are members of more than one club, must not change their representation from the club that is originally listed on their nomination.

INS boxes are compulsory for the Pro Tourers. No flammables allowed in at the meetings, (Shellite etc.) and running motors in liquids will not be allowed at the race meetings. There will be stringent scrutineering of 540 motors, to make sure that the cams have not been modified.

Rules will be published at http://www.actionrc.com.au/

Kindest regards,
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TJK also mentioned today that stricter monitoring of lipo charging, including nitro cars as well. Looks like i'll be making a big lipo sack!↲↲Also mentioned was that engines can be stripped at any time during the race meet. What are the conditions behind this? Does a protest have to be raised or can it occur randomly? will a fee be paid to said driver if the protest is unfounded?
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T↲↲Also mentioned was that engines can be stripped at any time during the race meet. What are the conditions behind this? Does a protest have to be raised or can it occur randomly? will a fee be paid to said driver if the protest is unfounded?
Good questions! It would have to be something extreme for this to happen you would think.

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I cannot understand why this aversion to having engines scrutineered.
It shouldn't need a protest lodged before an engine is checked.
Do you need to have a protest lodged to check weight, body height or wing height?
Isn't it a scrutineers job to make sure a car complies with all the rules?

Have people got something to hide?
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No flammables allowed in at the meetings, (Shellite etc.)
So does this mean all engine sprays, contact cleaner and tire additives will be banned as well?... after all they are all flammable

And on a kinda stupid note - how can you ban flammables at a race meeting with NITRO CARS RUNNNING
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Have people got something to hide?
Well after what I have heard I could say the same about 3 clubs and the sneaky way of changing the point score to suit there clubs
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Originally Posted by tjk
I cannot understand why this aversion to having engines scrutineered.
It shouldn't need a protest lodged before an engine is checked.
Do you need to have a protest lodged to check weight, body height or wing height?
Isn't it a scrutineers job to make sure a car complies with all the rules?

Have people got something to hide?
Trev I don't know why the defensive tone in your post but okay I'll play along...

Maybe you have never had a scrutineer with something against you personally?

Maybe you have the proper tools and can afford to bring a dremel and spare screws when the engine mount screws strip?

Maybe you have a pitman to do your work for you?

Maybe you don't have to marshall your own races?

I have nothing to hide Trev, my TG is quick and I'm proud of it.
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Originally Posted by Chickentrader
Interclub 2010 dates:
QRCCCRA 13 – 14 March
SCRCCC 15 – 16 May
LCRCCC 3 – 4 July
BRCCC 30 – 31 October


Point scoring has been changed.

There will be points for all finishing positions; not only for the A final. The system will work as follows: The points awarded in each class will be relative to the number of entries in the class. A class with 30 entries will have points allocated from 30 (A final winner) to 1 for the stone motherless in the C final. Each A finalists will have 5 points added to their points. For classes with less than 10 entries; drivers score points based on finishing positions and on a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 basis with 5 points added to each A finalist. This will allow any driver that makes an effort to represent their club to contribute to the club’s result, and acknowledges that the competition could sometimes be a little stronger perhaps in a class with about 30 entries, than in one with only about 7 entries.

There will be trophies for 1st, 2nd and 3rd A finals with concourse and best Junior.

Entry fees will be $ 30.00 for first class ($5.00 increase from last year) and $10.00 for second class, with under 16s paying $20.00 for 1st and $10.00 for 2nd. Those who are members of more than one club, must not change their representation from the club that is originally listed on their nomination.

INS boxes are compulsory for the Pro Tourers. No flammables allowed in at the meetings, (Shellite etc.) and running motors in liquids will not be allowed at the race meetings. There will be stringent scrutineering of 540 motors, to make sure that the cams have not been modified.

Rules will be published at http://www.actionrc.com.au/

Kindest regards,
Lars.
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Logan's Interclub round is on July 17th & 18th.

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Originally Posted by Chickentrader
Interclub 2010 dates:
QRCCCRA 13 – 14 March
SCRCCC 15 – 16 May
LCRCCC 3 – 4 July
BRCCC 30 – 31 October

Point scoring has been changed.


There will be points for all finishing positions; not only for the A final. The system will work as follows: The points awarded in each class will be relative to the number of entries in the class. A class with 30 entries will have points allocated from 30 (A final winner) to 1 for the stone motherless in the C final. Each A finalists will have 5 points added to their points. For classes with less than 10 entries; drivers score points based on finishing positions and on a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 basis with 5 points added to each A finalist. This will allow any driver that makes an effort to represent their club to contribute to the club’s result, and acknowledges that the competition could sometimes be a little stronger perhaps in a class with about 30 entries, than in one with only about 7 entries.

There will be trophies for 1st, 2nd and 3rd A finals with concourse and best Junior.

Entry fees will be $ 30.00 for first class ($5.00 increase from last year) and $10.00 for second class, with under 16s paying $20.00 for 1st and $10.00 for 2nd. Those who are members of more than one club, must not change their representation from the club that is originally listed on their nomination.

INS boxes are compulsory for the Pro Tourers. No flammables allowed in at the meetings, (Shellite etc.) and running motors in liquids will not be allowed at the race meetings. There will be stringent scrutineering of 540 motors, to make sure that the cams have not been modified.

Rules will be published at http://www.actionrc.com.au/

Kindest regards,
Lars.
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NONE OF THIS IS FINAL

ALL INTERCLUB REPS WHERE TO CONFIRM MINUTES BEFORE THIS WAS TO BE RELEASED

Most Information is correct but LOGAN HAS NOT CONFIRMED OUR DATES
They where to be confirmed.

LARS WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO????

Not Happy AT ALL.

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Why is it that the rules are changing with regards to the points system???

This would seriously hinder a new club or a club with limited number (eg Chargers) from ever getting close to an overall win weather it be for a round or even the overall series.

Aren't we trying to get more people and other clubs (which would obviously be smaller numbered) into this club VS club racing comp.


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Old 01-16-2010 | 10:46 PM
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reading the points structure it is in favor to a club that can get a lot of members to the meet

for example a large club has 20 drivers in one class and a very small club only has one, out of 30 drivers the one driver from the small club wins scoring 30 points +5 for finishing the A-main scoreing 35 pts for there club. The larger clup finishes 10 through 30th and in total they score 210 points for there club.
it looks like the point structure is in favor of the bigger clubs and does not reflect on the good drivers from the smaller club

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Originally Posted by Swamp Rat
NONE OF THIS IS FINAL

ALL INTERCLUB REPS WHERE TO CONFIRM MINUTES BEFORE THIS WAS TO BE RELEASED

Most Information is correct but LOGAN HAS NOT CONFIRMED OUR DATES
They where to be confirmed.

LARS WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO????

Not Happy AT ALL.

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I have been waiting for this information since December, so I can keep the my club's members informed, and I contacted Graham first thing Saturday morning to get an update. There have been discussions with some of my club's members about all this, and I as the secretary; see it as my business to keep my club members informed. I would have liked to see the meeting taking place in December, but it is all good now that it has been done. The Interclub reps of my club are there to represent the club members, have been put there by the club members, and understand their responsibility to disclose the important details of the meeting as soon as the information at hand. Apart from what I see as my own responsibilities; Graham was expected to brief my club at today’s (cancelled) race meeting about all this, and to answer questions. I see any attempt to withhold information; whether confirmed or not, about any of the proceedings at the meeting as totally inappropriate; I don’t what responsibilities of the representatives of other clubs are, but my club’s reps are there to represent the club members, and I am satisfied that they are doing just that.

I don’t see any of this as a big deal, but the minutes should probably be published as soon as possible, so all the interested parties can read all the details. For example: I did not know of the decision about pulling engines apart, and that seems to have come out of Trevor’s briefing about the Interclub reps meeting to his club; and the sooner that the minutes are published the sooner we will all stand informed. And anything not yet confirmed will also be known. Perhaps you could ask William to publish the minutes as soon as possible?

Dates of events get changed very often (try to keep my calendar http://chickentrading.com/viewforum....a90866a66091dd updated, and you’ll know), and all you have to do is to make an announcement on this forum and to your club if your club’s date is changed, I’ll take care of sending the information out to my club immediately, if nobody else will.

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I have been waiting for this information since December, so I can keep the my club's members informed, and I contacted Graham first thing Saturday morning to get an update. There have been discussions with some of my club's members about all this, and I as the secretary; see it as my business to keep my club members informed. I would have liked to see the meeting taking place in December, but it is all good now that it has been done. The Interclub reps of my club are there to represent the club members, have been put there by the club members, and understand their responsibility to disclose the important details of the meeting as soon as the information at hand. Apart from what I see as my own responsibilities; Graham was expected to brief my club at today’s (cancelled) race meeting about all this, and to answer questions. I see any attempt to withhold information; whether confirmed or not, about any of the proceedings at the meeting as totally inappropriate; I don’t what responsibilities of the representatives of other clubs are, but my club’s reps are there to represent the club members, and I am satisfied that they are doing just that.

I don’t see any of this as a big deal, but the minutes should probably be published as soon as possible, so all the interested parties can read all the details. For example: I did not know of the decision about pulling engines apart, and that seems to have come out of Trevor’s briefing about the Interclub reps meeting to his club; and the sooner that the minutes are published the sooner we will all stand informed. And anything not yet confirmed will also be known. Perhaps you could ask William to publish the minutes as soon as possible?

Dates of events get changed very often (try to keep my calendar http://chickentrading.com/viewforum....a90866a66091dd updated, and you’ll know), and all you have to do is to make an announcement on this forum and to your club if your club’s date is changed, I’ll take care of sending the information out to my club immediately, if nobody else will.

Kindest regards,
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Lars Your mendling has nothing to do with your calendar. nor your club.
It's your need to do something.

You do not Check your facts before you open your mouth.
You rush everything as if it your last breath. stop breeve, stop again and confirm your facts.

It is not your job to post for the interclub. BACK OUT and leave it to the interclub commitee foreman.

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Originally Posted by BAM Motorsports
reading the points structure it is in favor to a club that can get a lot of members to the meet

for example a large club has 20 drivers in one class and a very small club only has one, out of 30 drivers the one driver from the small club wins scoring 30 points +5 for finishing the A-main scoreing 35 pts for there club. The larger clup finishes 10 through 30th and in total they score 210 points for there club.
it looks like the point structure is in favor of the bigger clubs and does not reflect on the good drivers from the smaller club

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Yes LOGAN IS VERY HAPPY with the change.

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So does this mean all engine sprays, contact cleaner and tire additives will be banned as well?... after all they are all flammable

And on a kinda stupid note - how can you ban flammables at a race meeting with NITRO CARS RUNNNING
It's just the stupid way Lars has written the thing.

Wait until the approved version is posted.

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