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Old 09-27-2004, 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by UnderDaHill
Not sure if this is what you need but.....

http://tpjexelby.tripod.com/NitroRackPics.htm

That's from Tim XLB
just what i was looking for .. thanks very much....
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I know the nitro racks are supposed to be better that it suppose to be more durable but when it comes to steering whats the difference?
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Old 09-27-2004, 06:58 PM
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Do you need to drill new holes to use the NTC3 steering rack with the BMI chassis? Is it that important of an upgrade?

What types of set-ups are you guys running for carpet racing?

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(I've skimmed through 75+ pages in this thread, and found alot of useful info but I figured I'd ask this anyways)
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all of my tc3 chassis come predrilled to fit the nitro or standard steering racks.there are 2 set of nitro rack holes in the chassis.1 is for the standard mounting position as the nitro car and 1 is for correct ackerman.the one for correct ackerman requires some slight modifications to mount but works very well.hope this helps
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Old 09-27-2004, 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by j240z
Do you need to drill new holes to use the NTC3 steering rack with the BMI chassis? Is it that important of an upgrade?

What types of set-ups are you guys running for carpet racing?

Thanks!

(I've skimmed through 75+ pages in this thread, and found alot of useful info but I figured I'd ask this anyways)
Ive ran the nitro rack in my tc3. and found the steering to have a finer tuning adjustments .. it is very smooth and responds very quickly throu tight sections of the track..

as for carpet set up .. cant call it ..I run asphalt out doors...
but Im sure some of the other drivers can help you out...
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Jason glad you guys are ok once again.
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Old 09-27-2004, 08:20 PM
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Jason, I hope all is well. Four huricanes in a short time for FL, thank goodness that FL is a large state.
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:01 AM
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Carpet setup
I thought I'd post our setup for carpet.

Front

Springs: white
Oil: 60wt assoc
Pistons #2's
Caster blocks: 4* assoc/losi steeing knuckles
front block: F-0
shock mounting: lower outer hole on arm, middle hole on a rear shock tower mounted up front. (I cut off the outer most hole).
camber link: lower inner on shock tower.
Sway bar: either a .078 or a .062 up front (depending on bite).
Tires: Jaco double Pink/Orange or Purple/Orange.

Rear:

Springs: Purple or copper (depending on bite)
Oil: 50wt Assoc
Pistons: #2's
Rear toe in: either the "R" block with the R+2+0 or the "F" block with the R+3+0 block. (I shim up the "F" block with 2 motor washers per side).
Rear Hubs: Losi 0* hubs.
Camber link: upper inner hole on hte shock tower and the inner hole on the hub carrier.
Sway Bar: none
Tires: Jaco double pinks or purples.

Camber: 1.5* all around. (less up front if the tires are coning)
Batteries: forward.
Motor: either a Monster stock or a MVP
Tire size: 2.360 (new Jaco rims) 2.3 (old rims)
Elecronics: GT7 speedo, (#4setting) XXTra Rx, JR 8714 servo, and a personal transponder mounted on the servo.
Body: Losi Alfa. slammed or a Startus (old one).

hope this helps.

the only change we made was to go to 70wt Assoc up front for Cleveland and we ran a 2.0 Stratus.
we went back to the Alfa this weekend

JRighter's setup
Here is the setup I currently run and will try on the BMI
Front
70wt
#2 pistons
yellow springs
rear tower on the front on the inside hole
inner hole on the arm
losi 4 degree hubs
losi knuckles
f+0 block
-2 camber
zero tow in
camber link long and high
droop... I dunno. I just adjusted for 3mm of down travel
5mm of ride height

rear
60wt
#2 pistons
out on the tower and arm
copper springs
camber on the tower high and inside
losi 1/2 degree hubs with camber on the inside hole
hubs spaced in the middle
front block in the rear
R 2+0 block
same thing as above on droop
-2 camber
5mm of ride height

Plaid front, purple rear (2.28 preffered size)
Protoform alfa with wing mounted forward
100 tooth spur
Batteries forward
1/2 ounce weight added to the motor side of the car

Wannabe's setup
Here is a set up I have been running on the rug and it works well and is easy to drive:

Front:
70 wt. oil
Yellow springs mounted on the inside hole of the rear shock tower installed up front. Inside hole on the arm. Camber link top inside hole on the tower...

0* toe / 4* caster blocks (I am using the NTC3 steering rack)



Rear:
60 wt. oil
Purple springs shocks mounted outside hole on the tower...F+2+0 block...
I eliminated some rear toe by installing Losi 1/2* hubs backwards...Camber link top inside hole tower, inside in the hubs.

I am running about 2mm up travel F/R

TM racing purple foams rear and TM racing plaids front...

hope this helps.

Chill Will:

Hi,

the modded nitro rack will help in carring more speed through the corners. it does change the ackerman a litttle over the stock rack. we run it on carpet only we don't run any outdoors because of Karting so I can't really say anything about it. go to the link that UnderDaHill posted for more info.

mb racer can help you out about outdoors as I see he is running the modded rack.

Thanks
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:25 AM
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Thanks, TimXLB! That was all great info. I just aquired a BMI chassis for my TC3 and all that info is very usefull. I have never raced on carpet and I'm really looking forward to it now that it's cooling off here on the west coast!
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:11 PM
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I finally got a BMI TC3 and i love it!!!! I only have one problem with it, i had problems fiting my electroins. But on a regular TC3 I had the same problems, ather than that the BMI is perfict
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Old 09-28-2004, 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by HKlosi
I finally got a BMI TC3 and i love it!!!! I only have one problem with it, i had problems fiting my electroins. But on a regular TC3 I had the same problems, ather than that the BMI is perfict
so that means you better go out there and win some races .. have a good time racing ..and alot o fun!!
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:35 PM
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Trouble fitting electronics? Unless you are running a Super Rooster and a 7 channel plane reciever it should fit....
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:16 AM
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Chill Will-LMFAO!!


What up guys? How have you been doing at the races?


Later,
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Old 09-29-2004, 01:51 PM
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I run a stock JR reciver, cystals (hopin 2 get a KO Propo) and a GT7 (hoping 2 get a GTX) they're both fairly big, and the BMI is way better than a stock TC3 and a Losi GP comibed trust me i've run both
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