Team Magic G4
#2702
Originally Posted by Lycan
Serpent Drive Calculator gives me the same 1.6mm difference.
Its a simple equation so I dont' understand how there could be two different results.
Andrew
Its a simple equation so I dont' understand how there could be two different results.
Andrew
#2703
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
Ok, i have investigated the one way issue, and SerpentD, it was full of grease. but that is not my problem ! i have cleaned it and have made a black mark on each face of the one way bearing. i felt it was strange that the pin no longer could go through the hole, to lock the drive cup. so a little tap of the cup and it aligned again. so i decided to pull the bearing out of it and see what the problem is. due to my amazement, the bearing is actually turning inside the housing. not the cup slipping on the one way. so there is too much machining tolerance given for the interference fit of the oneway bearing inside the housing. the bearing just slides in and out of the housing, with little persuasion. this is why its slipping. ill try to get some video footage but maybe hard to see.
Last edited by Pattojnr; 11-25-2006 at 01:05 AM.
#2704
Originally Posted by Pattojnr
Ok, i have investigated the one way issue, and SerpentD, it was full of grease. but that is not my problem ! i have cleaned it and have made a black mark on each face of the one way bearing. i felt it was strange that the pin no longer could go through the hole, to lock the drive cup. so a little tap of the cup and it aligned again. so i decided to pull the bearing out of it and see what the problem is. due to my amazement, the bearing is actually turning inside the housing. not the cup slipping on the one way. so there is too much machining tolerance given for the interference fit of the oneway bearing inside the housing. the bearing just slides in and out of the housing, with little persuasion. this is why its slipping. ill try to get some video footage but maybe hard to see.
#2705
Originally Posted by Pattojnr
Ok, i have investigated the one way issue, and SerpentD, it was full of grease. but that is not my problem ! i have cleaned it and have made a black mark on each face of the one way bearing. i felt it was strange that the pin no longer could go through the hole, to lock the drive cup. so a little tap of the cup and it aligned again. so i decided to pull the bearing out of it and see what the problem is. due to my amazement, the bearing is actually turning inside the housing. not the cup slipping on the one way. so there is too much machining tolerance given for the interference fit of the oneway bearing inside the housing. the bearing just slides in and out of the housing, with little persuasion. this is why its slipping. ill try to get some video footage but maybe hard to see.
im a bit pi#@ed of ,it rained the whole day so no practice.If it rains tomorrow ,it will be the 4th weekend in the row.
Hope it clears up for club meet tomorrow.
#2706
wow!
you guys are amazing people.
thanks for the kind words and support, it is much appreciated.
SerpentD - youre awesome. if you offered to loan me money to get back on the track, having never even met me... of course I wouldn't accept it, but the thought is absolutely unreal.
I will be back on the track (not the parking lot) in no time at all.
Until then, I will be racing vicariously through my good friend and spending my time at the track helping him reduce his lap times.
again, thank you all and i'll be back soon.
hope all your thanksgiving's were splendid!
you guys are amazing people.
thanks for the kind words and support, it is much appreciated.
SerpentD - youre awesome. if you offered to loan me money to get back on the track, having never even met me... of course I wouldn't accept it, but the thought is absolutely unreal.
I will be back on the track (not the parking lot) in no time at all.
Until then, I will be racing vicariously through my good friend and spending my time at the track helping him reduce his lap times.
again, thank you all and i'll be back soon.
hope all your thanksgiving's were splendid!
#2707
To all the US based guys an the board , Happy Thanksgiving !
#2708
I have heard before that one bearing problem slips within the housing on the stock one ways. K factory one bearing is best and haven't heard any problems with this one.
#2709
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
Razzor, the problem is you cant put the pin back inif the one way bearing comes out of the housing. the pin hole was a half hole out. thats why i investigated further.
G4Ser this one may be the first of the k factory ones so far, but i can tell you it is definately the problem. if you turn the cup to lock it in (being driven) you can actually grip the cup and pull it out as you turn it and the one way bearing can be pulled out with the cup. i have taken video of the bearing being put back in by pressing with fingers, and the turning of the cup. just dont know how to post the footage. so i will email it. as a trial to fix the problem, i have used some loctite super stud lock on the outside of the bearing and pressed it back in the housing. put the drive pins back in and locked with the set screws in the cups. i will take out the drive pins and try it again, to see if the loctite worked but i will have to race it as it is for next weekend. just may have to be locked solid thats all, then it can be worked out what to do with it later as this is the seasons last race meet.
G4Ser this one may be the first of the k factory ones so far, but i can tell you it is definately the problem. if you turn the cup to lock it in (being driven) you can actually grip the cup and pull it out as you turn it and the one way bearing can be pulled out with the cup. i have taken video of the bearing being put back in by pressing with fingers, and the turning of the cup. just dont know how to post the footage. so i will email it. as a trial to fix the problem, i have used some loctite super stud lock on the outside of the bearing and pressed it back in the housing. put the drive pins back in and locked with the set screws in the cups. i will take out the drive pins and try it again, to see if the loctite worked but i will have to race it as it is for next weekend. just may have to be locked solid thats all, then it can be worked out what to do with it later as this is the seasons last race meet.
#2710
Sorry doing two things at one time. Is the one way you are talking about in the front spool of the ED Trans that is slipping? I will get TM to cover us on this if that is the case!! Let me know.
#2712
I will email you and I will get this taken care of for you. I haven't run my ED as yet, I will for a Toys for Tots race on the 12th of december. But if anyone else has a problem please post it here.
Patto email what you have showing this problem so I can send it to TM right away.
Thanks
Sam
Patto email what you have showing this problem so I can send it to TM right away.
Thanks
Sam
#2714
Checked the spool from my ED since I fitted a front diff.
What you explained ,I can confirm.
as I mentioned When I fitted my ED I was checking the spool out and took a pin out.When I put the drive cup back I couldnt get the pin in again but when I turned the drive cup it must have moved the bearing and the pin went in.
Definately a problem there.
Dont have my camera with me , will be going into shop in the morning to pick up my gear for race meet tomorrow ,will take pics then and post after the meet.
What you explained ,I can confirm.
as I mentioned When I fitted my ED I was checking the spool out and took a pin out.When I put the drive cup back I couldnt get the pin in again but when I turned the drive cup it must have moved the bearing and the pin went in.
Definately a problem there.
Dont have my camera with me , will be going into shop in the morning to pick up my gear for race meet tomorrow ,will take pics then and post after the meet.
#2715
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
i think most guys like to run them as a solid axle there for the pins remain in and no problem evident. but if the pins are removed and wanting a oneway axle, then the problem i think will be evident immediately. also as i said, if my one housing has machining fault, then i think there will be lots more out there. unfortunate, i know, but its been picked up on, and now if everyone can check there ED trans front spool, then i think more people will pick up on this fault. i will see tommorow if the loctite has worked or not. if not i will have to run solid up front. thats all