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Old 07-01-2013, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
After a full day of testing on carpet I learned a few valuable lessons.

1. Martin's Hofer's Base Setup is an extremely good place to start. Don't skimp, get the parts you need to duplicate it exactly. I did and it was worth it.

2. The Yok Springs are crucial on carpet. The kit green springs are not good on carpet. I wanted to test the Schumacher Blue and Whites but I ran out of time.

3. Battery position makes a huge difference. With my batt in the rear the car was unstable on med grip carpet. In the Mid position the car became very smooth. This will allow me to put some of the rotation I took out with other settings back in.

4. If you change a setting on the Mi5 you will get exactly what you expect to get.

This was all with Jaco Blue tires, the kit motor position and a Protoform lite LTC-R mounted centered on the front wheel wells and with the rear wing overhanging ~8mm. I could get the Mi5 to be mellow and smooth or edgy and aggressive with the LTC-R so this will become my new standard body for all surfaces.

My lap times by the end of the day were competitive middle of the A-Main times. I am certain there is more speed in the car as I feel I made it too safe to drive by the end of the day. This is OK as this was my goal. I wanted to make sure I could get it to drive like a Caddy through conventional setup changes. Now I can make it more aggressive again and know I can get any balance I want.

Racing next Wednesday and looking forward to it.
Very nice to hear Adrian!
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
Very nice to hear Adrian!
Where do you find Martin Hofer's setup, and which additional parts thats is requred for a good start setup ?
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Originally Posted by Shock Tower
Where do you find Martin Hofer's setup, and which additional parts thats is requred for a good start setup ?
Blog: http://hofaaa.files.wordpress.com

Setup: http://hofaaa.files.wordpress.com/20..._mh_230413.pdf

For Carpet you will need the following parts

Speed Secret 2 notch Rear hub top plates
Speed Secret 1 pip 2.5 deg rear arms
YOKYS-1565L - Yokomo Pro Shock Spring (Long Type - Pink)
YOKYS-14575L - Yokomo Pro Shock Spring (Long Type - Blue)
Some 0.5mm and 1mm shims.

For Asphalt

Run the same setup with the kit Green springs front and rear. This is all noted on the setup.

If the grip is low go to the kit no notch rear hub top plate for more rear stability. You can also got to 3deg rear toe if you need more rear stability on turn in. The higher the grip the less rear toe you need.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:37 AM
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Do the Mi5 use normal spur gears, ore the down grinded in center like the Xray T4.
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They use unique spur gears that are only produced by Schumacher.
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i've been reading this thread,lots of good info,i like the build tips. mine is supposed to be in tomorrow at the lhs, can't wait to start the build...
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Originally Posted by linkless
They use unique spur gears that are only produced by Schumacher.
Stormer and A-Main have them in stock in 48P and 64P.

Also, Schumacher UK can get anything to the Eastern US in 3-4 days and a day or two longer to the West by AirSure Postal Service for about the same $$ as a domestic UPS shipment.

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I noticed Speedtech has some gears too:

http://www.speedtechhobbies.com/inde...=60_74_259_258
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
Blog: http://hofaaa.files.wordpress.com

Setup: http://hofaaa.files.wordpress.com/20..._mh_230413.pdf

For Carpet you will need the following parts

Speed Secret 2 notch Rear hub top plates
Speed Secret 1 pip 2.5 deg rear arms
YOKYS-1565L - Yokomo Pro Shock Spring (Long Type - Pink)
YOKYS-14575L - Yokomo Pro Shock Spring (Long Type - Blue)
Some 0.5mm and 1mm shims.

For Asphalt

Run the same setup with the kit Green springs front and rear. This is all noted on the setup.

If the grip is low go to the kit no notch rear hub top plate for more rear stability. You can also got to 3deg rear toe if you need more rear stability on turn in. The higher the grip the less rear toe you need.
will that Hofer setup work good for 17.5 also?
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i am going to run on asphalt,will foams do the job?
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Originally Posted by coxbros
will that Hofer setup work good for 17.5 also?
He races spec 13.5 so yeah it will work with 17.5.
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Originally Posted by beaven
i am going to run on asphalt,will foams do the job?
No one runs foam on sedan. Get some Solaris hard premounts for asphalt or some Sorex 36R's
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Hello AdrianM,

The top plates are the three notch items, not two.

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Originally Posted by caltek1
Hello AdrianM,

The top plates are the three notch items, not two.

Regards,

Calvin
Hi Calvin,

Adrian means the rear hub plates and not the inner camber link plates.

THe rr hub plates come in 0 (kit), 1 and 2 (optional).

Hofer's setup uses 3D link camber plate and 2 notch rr hub plate. (super short rr link)

HTH.
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Originally Posted by DirtyDog3375
Hi Calvin,

Adrian means the rear hub plates and not the inner camber link plates.

THe rr hub plates come in 0 (kit), 1 and 2 (optional).

Hofer's setup uses 3D link camber plate and 2 notch rr hub plate. (super short rr link)

HTH.
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