Associated RC 12 R5.2
#1036
Tech Fanatic
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Plus Keven's shock mount isn't an Associated part when you look through the window of the body-
https://www.teamassociated.com/pictu...ps-7299_lg.jpg
https://www.teamassociated.com/pictu...ps-7299_lg.jpg
#1037
Plus Keven's shock mount isn't an Associated part when you look through the window of the body-
https://www.teamassociated.com/pictu...ps-7299_lg.jpg
https://www.teamassociated.com/pictu...ps-7299_lg.jpg
#1039
Tech Master
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Ok so 1/12th newb here looking for some suggestions. First off, where should I go to learn about chassis adjustments and what they do. I'm not looking for someone elses set-up sheet, I want to know what adjustments affect the car in what way. I can dial a 2wd buggy right where it needs to be, but I want to learn pan car. I acquired an R5.2 used, so I am not sure what the set-up is right now, but I do know that the car has had the spacers added to the front but the R5.1 brace has not been installed. I have one I am gonna put in.
Took the car out to day and it felt pretty good except for one thing. There is a chicane leading onto the back straight and the car does something strange getting out onto the straight. On power, almost seems like it is "diffing out" (off-road terms). I was going to tighten up the diff a little but was afraid it would cause a push so I didnt try yet. I want to rebuild the diff first.
Running on CRC black carpet. Track layout changes often, so where would be a good starting point for springs and tires? I have 3 boxes of tires that were given to me as well, CRC, RC4less and Jacos, all different shures, should I try them all and see what I like? I normally would start there but that would end up being almost a million different combinations. Is it safe to assume that lower shure would be a softer tire? And last question. Natural rubber vs synthetic, whats the deal there.
Took the car out to day and it felt pretty good except for one thing. There is a chicane leading onto the back straight and the car does something strange getting out onto the straight. On power, almost seems like it is "diffing out" (off-road terms). I was going to tighten up the diff a little but was afraid it would cause a push so I didnt try yet. I want to rebuild the diff first.
Running on CRC black carpet. Track layout changes often, so where would be a good starting point for springs and tires? I have 3 boxes of tires that were given to me as well, CRC, RC4less and Jacos, all different shures, should I try them all and see what I like? I normally would start there but that would end up being almost a million different combinations. Is it safe to assume that lower shure would be a softer tire? And last question. Natural rubber vs synthetic, whats the deal there.
#1040
Tech Master
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Ok so 1/12th newb here looking for some suggestions. First off, where should I go to learn about chassis adjustments and what they do. I'm not looking for someone elses set-up sheet, I want to know what adjustments affect the car in what way. I can dial a 2wd buggy right where it needs to be, but I want to learn pan car. I acquired an R5.2 used, so I am not sure what the set-up is right now, but I do know that the car has had the spacers added to the front but the R5.1 brace has not been installed. I have one I am gonna put in.
Took the car out to day and it felt pretty good except for one thing. There is a chicane leading onto the back straight and the car does something strange getting out onto the straight. On power, almost seems like it is "diffing out" (off-road terms). I was going to tighten up the diff a little but was afraid it would cause a push so I didnt try yet. I want to rebuild the diff first.
Running on CRC black carpet. Track layout changes often, so where would be a good starting point for springs and tires? I have 3 boxes of tires that were given to me as well, CRC, RC4less and Jacos, all different shures, should I try them all and see what I like? I normally would start there but that would end up being almost a million different combinations. Is it safe to assume that lower shure would be a softer tire? And last question. Natural rubber vs synthetic, whats the deal there.
Took the car out to day and it felt pretty good except for one thing. There is a chicane leading onto the back straight and the car does something strange getting out onto the straight. On power, almost seems like it is "diffing out" (off-road terms). I was going to tighten up the diff a little but was afraid it would cause a push so I didnt try yet. I want to rebuild the diff first.
Running on CRC black carpet. Track layout changes often, so where would be a good starting point for springs and tires? I have 3 boxes of tires that were given to me as well, CRC, RC4less and Jacos, all different shures, should I try them all and see what I like? I normally would start there but that would end up being almost a million different combinations. Is it safe to assume that lower shure would be a softer tire? And last question. Natural rubber vs synthetic, whats the deal there.
#1041
Tech Master
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Also if it is 360 the track has a spec tire for 12th scale 13.5 and 17.5 at the track mod is open tire. The guys running 12th there are some of the fastest in the country i would ask them but if the car is good all over the track and not at the turn right b4 the straight i would leave it not to sacrifice messing with it on the rest of the track for that 1 section
#1043
Tech Master
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Also if it is 360 the track has a spec tire for 12th scale 13.5 and 17.5 at the track mod is open tire. The guys running 12th there are some of the fastest in the country i would ask them but if the car is good all over the track and not at the turn right b4 the straight i would leave it not to sacrifice messing with it on the rest of the track for that 1 section
Unfortunately there was nobody else there with a pan car last night. But as well I dont want someone to say "here use this set-up" and be done with it, I need to know why/what/how/when.
Oh and BTW what is the spec tire for 360? I will have to pick some up so I know what to expect when I do go there.
#1044
Tech Master
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I truely dont know being i just picked up a 5.2 but its listed on there facebook.
Think about coming by peopl like phill trotta keven herbert mike hanulec all run there and are all willing to help keep everyone getting as fast as they can if u can instead of the tolls to rc world come out this thurs for club race b4 stock wars
Think about coming by peopl like phill trotta keven herbert mike hanulec all run there and are all willing to help keep everyone getting as fast as they can if u can instead of the tolls to rc world come out this thurs for club race b4 stock wars
#1045
Tech Master
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I truely dont know being i just picked up a 5.2 but its listed on there facebook.
Think about coming by peopl like phill trotta keven herbert mike hanulec all run there and are all willing to help keep everyone getting as fast as they can if u can instead of the tolls to rc world come out this thurs for club race b4 stock wars
Think about coming by peopl like phill trotta keven herbert mike hanulec all run there and are all willing to help keep everyone getting as fast as they can if u can instead of the tolls to rc world come out this thurs for club race b4 stock wars
#1047
Tech Master
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Sundays might be the ticket. We are racing every other Sunday right now. I am getting a TC6.1 soon to replace my old TC5 that I am using in 17.5 so my TC5 might end up USGT or replacing my TC3 for VTA.
I found some set-up stuff online that I am gonna try a few things out. Got a tire truer too, Gonna order some different rate springs for the car as well. I have to figure out what changes this car needs when it is not doing what I want it to do.
I found some set-up stuff online that I am gonna try a few things out. Got a tire truer too, Gonna order some different rate springs for the car as well. I have to figure out what changes this car needs when it is not doing what I want it to do.
#1049
Tech Master
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I modified my 12r5.2 to use a silva shock. The length is right at 66mm (I think that's right) but it doesn't let you build any droop or slop in it even when the collar is not touching the spring. Do I have too much oil in it? How much rebound should it have? I think somebody said you should have about 10% of the shaft sticking out after you push it in? Help please. I looked at Edwards video on droop and it still has not sunk in....
#1050
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I modified my 12r5.2 to use a silva shock. The length is right at 66mm (I think that's right) but it doesn't let you build any droop or slop in it even when the collar is not touching the spring. Do I have too much oil in it? How much rebound should it have? I think somebody said you should have about 10% of the shaft sticking out after you push it in? Help please. I looked at Edwards video on droop and it still has not sunk in....
It can be a bit frustrating to minimise rebound as its all about how you cap the blabber and shock cap.
I fully extend the shock shaft, set the bladder on the body slowly push the shock shaft expelling any excess oil/air then seal the bladder. I then very slightly pull the shock shaft back out and it should suck the bladder down causing a seal. Then carefully cap the shock.
For droop have a look at this method. Its the way I do it.
http://site.petitrc.com/reglages/xra...dChassisFront/
You need to know the shock has 2 adjustments
1) the tension on the spring - controls centre ride height/sag
2) the length of the shock - controls rear pod droop
The tension is adjusted by the shock collar nut. It puts tension on the spring causing the centre of the chassis to lift or sag. The spring tension adjusts your centre ride height measured at the FRONT of the REAR pod. I set it about 0.2mm less than the ride height measured at the rear of the pod. Some people keep the centre ride height the same as the rear.
The pod droop, I put the 2 hudy blocks under the main chassis. This will allow the rear pod to be suspended purely by the length of the shock.
I set my pod droop to be about 1.5mm lower than the main chassis.
This means the rear pod should be hanging lower than the main chassis a bit like this ----\. You adjust pod droop by the length of the shock.
With the rear pod drooping, measure the height at the rear of the pod with the hudy droop gauge
Adjust/screw/unscrew the plastic ball cup at the bottom of the shock attached to the spring retainer to lengthen or shorten the shock.
If you do not have a hudy droop gauge/blocks, just set you car on the bench and measure centre ride height at the front of the rear pod. Then lift the car from the centre without lifting the front/rear wheels. The car will look something like this /\. Now measure the new centre ride height. The difference between the 2 measurements will be your droop.
The confusion I found that sometimes the terms sag and droop get interchanged.
Sag is all about keeping the chassis level or sagging in the centre with both wheels on the ground
Droop is the height difference between the main chassis and the rear pod, when the rear pod is drooping below the main chassis.
Also note, when you adjust droop, it may effect the pod sag and vise versa as described in Edwards video.
Hope this helps.