ml8163

Thanks Vision.

ml8163

Thanks SNR.

brushless55

Ok, I can see the difference in suspension layout on this vs the GTP2e, but how different is the handling of the two cars, also is one better at high speeds than the other and why?

Thanks!!

omalley72

iTrader: (18)

I had the the GTPe and I didn't care for it. I picked up the DM1e and love it!! I never could get the GTPe set right so I sold it. The DM1e just seems more planted to me, very responsive.

Joat

Did you have the rear pbs on the gtp2e?

omalley72

iTrader: (18)

It was stock. I have to say that I did give up on it rather quickly though.

Joat

I agree stock is horrible, with the rear pbs it's night and day, glad your happy with the dm, thinking of buy a nitro dm to do a my own conversion,
if I bought a dm-e I'd change alot on it to make it not worth buying and e over a nitro IDK, still tossing the idea.

Lazer Guy

iTrader: (1)

I would like to know what is better about the rear PBS ??
With the stock rear setup I can get 3*
Do I need more then 3* of toe in ??
Looks to me like you would need a good setup station to get and keep the rear toe right, also the sway bar is strange.

Thank you for any advice.

brushless55

thanks for your input..

ok, help me out... what is PDS?

leebrushless

iTrader: (10)

Looks great. Have you checked its top speed yet?
Iam looking at getting one just for carparks & speed runs.
Getting a XO-1 takes the fun out of trying it your own way. Leigh

leebrushless

iTrader: (10)

Did you give it a try? speed ? Leigh

Joat

Not about toe, the pbs is so much smoother just like the front, barely any slop,you dont have to run the torsion style sway bars if you dont want too.

PBS not PDS,
Pillow
Ball
Suspension
The DM1 runs front and rear PBS, the gtp2 e or nitro runs pbs front and rear is a option, the gtp-dirt oval is pbs front and rear

brushless55

Ok so maybe the Dirt Oval could handle similar to the DM-1 ?

Lazer Guy

iTrader: (1)

Thank you Joat
I changed the hinge pins size and the upper links and have no slop, it's also just as smooth as the front pbs.
I'm still not sure why I need pbs in the rear, I have the kit ready to go on but I want to know what will be faster on the the track and why before I put it on.
My car is very very good now, I could just put it on an see for myself where it's faster but I'd like to know what to look for.


Thanks again

Joat

Maybe you dont? if your car is handling great then leave it,You need someone like SNR to chime in on it ,what did you use for upper links, mine are getting sloppy