InitialD

May look to be the same but I would not know if their crank window timings are.

markp27

That's were the money is earned

markp27

I know you're fluent and only make those mistakes on purpose

InitialD

Danke Herr Mark. Ich mag, daß Sie mir immer schmeicheln.

markp27

Ich tue mein Bestes

InitialD

Just saw the setups sheets posted. It was a Mazda 6.

So using the front diff for the first time, Julius? Did the track require a front diff? Looking from your other setups, it did not require much change from setting up with a front oneway... Or am I wrong?

Also, what did you do to make the front trackwidth at 199 mm with the front diff? Fuel tubing?

Julius

I changed back and forth between one-way and diff a few times. The setup was similar. With the one way I used less caster and a harder front sway bar. The setting of especially the front diff is very important. It needs to be really stiff. If it is too loose you get on power oversteer in hairpins and understeer in fast sweepers. So it's really stiff. I had to get used to not braking so deep into corners with the diff. On the brake you get some understeer.

I used fuel tubing but in the wheelaxles. I dont like the dogbones going in too deep into the wheelaxle. I had no problems with them dropping out at all.

InitialD

Stiff as in near solid when it's warmed up? I'll try it out. I think I need to change my front diff adjuster because part of the screw theading is stripped because I tightened it too hard. Now it is set normal.

Cool. Will try that out too. I guess Michael used about the same setup? Also, is the 2.5 mm rear sway bar going to be an option soon?

Julius

He was running like my sunday setup. I changed slowly from the Saturday setup to end up very close to Michaels setup.

The sway bar will be an option soon.

KevinS

At the moment I only speak once sentence in German...

Schade Deutschland, alles ist vorbei!


On the receiver part:
I too use the R113iP, which is a tight fit in the receiverbox. Can't even sqeeze in a bit of servotape. I wonder why Futaba doesn't try to make these receivers as small as their FM receivers.

R113iP 42x29x16mm
R133F 36x25x16mm

But then again... failsave included!

markp27

Technically "gesehen" that's a Haupt-sentence and a Neben-sentence - so you can say you can you speak more than a sentence

markp27

Julius, what made you choose the diff over the one-way for the race?

Julius

Same laptimes, but more consistent. Also the car reacts less to track changes. Overall it made life easier. I never was a fan of the front diff except in low grip, but I guess I need to test this setup in HEemstede and see how it works in the fast corners.

markp27

Do you mean more consistent overall or was it more consistent under braking?

Was accelerating out of corners as good as a one-way or did it have a little on-power understeer?

Cheers, Mark.

Julius

More consistent laptimes (meaning easier to drive and keep lines). Also braking was better, but I had to get used to the slight understeer under braking. I normally use very little brake but brake long into corners. With the diff you'd get more understeer into corners. So I needed to brake earlier but also get off the brakes sooner.

Accelerating out of corners is the same. You can tune the amount of under/oversteer with the rear diff.

In short: the tighter the front diff the less steering into the corner. If the front diff is to loose you can get oversteer on throttle. If you have on throttle understeer, tighten the rear diff a bit.