HPI R40 Nitro Car Forum
#2896
our straight is around 120 with a small lead up and a huge sweeper after on throttle 75% or more i guess
most guys run high hp modded engines we have some seriously fast competition here
i was thinking mugen x12 but ive heard they are thirsty
i need some serious hp and still decent fuel mileage
im not sure i can have both thats why i think i may need to go back to 20% nitro
most guys run high hp modded engines we have some seriously fast competition here
i was thinking mugen x12 but ive heard they are thirsty
i need some serious hp and still decent fuel mileage
im not sure i can have both thats why i think i may need to go back to 20% nitro
#2897
From what I have heard the JP X12 are thirsty. The stock X12 will go 6 and half minutes per tank.
#2898
ive talked to a couple different x12 owners and they pretty much all agree it takes a long time to break-in and drinks fuel pretty heavy like all NS based engines (so ive been told)
could it go 6 1/2 minutes under certain conditions im certain it could but in my circumstances im not sure yet
my buddy just got 1 this weekend im going to let him run it some and let me know what he thinks
its definetly very very fast and thats appealling
but with almost everyone at our local track having issues with fuel consumption i want to investigate further
could it go 6 1/2 minutes under certain conditions im certain it could but in my circumstances im not sure yet
my buddy just got 1 this weekend im going to let him run it some and let me know what he thinks
its definetly very very fast and thats appealling
but with almost everyone at our local track having issues with fuel consumption i want to investigate further
#2899
Originally posted by PTP Racing
our straight is around 120 with a small lead up and a huge sweeper after on throttle 75% or more i guess
most guys run high hp modded engines we have some seriously fast competition here
i was thinking mugen x12 but ive heard they are thirsty
i need some serious hp and still decent fuel mileage
im not sure i can have both thats why i think i may need to go back to 20% nitro
our straight is around 120 with a small lead up and a huge sweeper after on throttle 75% or more i guess
most guys run high hp modded engines we have some seriously fast competition here
i was thinking mugen x12 but ive heard they are thirsty
i need some serious hp and still decent fuel mileage
im not sure i can have both thats why i think i may need to go back to 20% nitro
If you are on throttle less than a lot, you can use slightly less powerful motors with a more usable power band. My recommendation in this case is the RB V12 or Rody Tuned V12. These motors I am pretty sure have less total power than the NS type. However they have a very strong bottom end and an incredible mid range which really makes a great difference out of slower corners and mid straight. You will likely get pulled in the top end by a NS motor. However the RB has far less agressive crank and sleeve porting which naturally leads to less fuel consumption and also has a secondary benefit of easier tuning. Also the RBs can sit and idle for a long time before loading up. Lastly a benefit of some sort is they pull less RPM. Why is this a benefit? If you are club racing I assume you want engine life, less RPM = less wear on rod and sleeve.
In any event if you want to pay premium price a MAX or JP FX will be awesome. I personally chose the RB since it has a lower cost of ownership (AUD$320 for the motor and $150 for a rebuild vs AUD $650 for the JP and $300 for a rebuild) and I run at a club level 99% of the time.
#2900
Tech Fanatic
Originally posted by AMGRacer
Thanks for the info!
Front end push. I assume you are running a one way? Where does it push, into or mid corner? On power it will push with 10K in the rear in good traction for sure.
The new rear arms are awesome, the droop locations are much more convienient, and I like attaching the swaybars on the outer linkage points. Give the arms more leverage on the bar itself.
With your belts I dunno. I run a RB V12 which is a torquey motor, with the Red Rulon shoes on a good traction track which has 8 180 degree hard acceleration corners. Mine has so far held up. Do you know why they are crapping out?
Thanks for the info!
Front end push. I assume you are running a one way? Where does it push, into or mid corner? On power it will push with 10K in the rear in good traction for sure.
The new rear arms are awesome, the droop locations are much more convienient, and I like attaching the swaybars on the outer linkage points. Give the arms more leverage on the bar itself.
With your belts I dunno. I run a RB V12 which is a torquey motor, with the Red Rulon shoes on a good traction track which has 8 180 degree hard acceleration corners. Mine has so far held up. Do you know why they are crapping out?
#2901
Tech Apprentice
Foam Recommendation
I wonder if you guys can recommend me brands of foam tire (link would be appreciated).
I am starting to race in California and wonder what kind of tire are recommended for the R40.
I am starting to race in California and wonder what kind of tire are recommended for the R40.
#2902
Tech Master
The stock tires really aren't that bad. They're just expensive.
Fast Tires, Power Tires, Ellegi Tires and some other ones are basically the same brand. I highly recommend those.
Although, Nitro Shoes are pretty good tires also. But I prefer to run spoked rims
Fast Tires, Power Tires, Ellegi Tires and some other ones are basically the same brand. I highly recommend those.
Although, Nitro Shoes are pretty good tires also. But I prefer to run spoked rims
#2903
im using the hpi tires and they are pretty good
sometimes i also run speedmind
when purchasing pay attention foam tires can be confusing
most brands will have different front and rears
look for a 26mm front and a 30mm rear probably around 37 shore is a good place to start
sometimes i also run speedmind
when purchasing pay attention foam tires can be confusing
most brands will have different front and rears
look for a 26mm front and a 30mm rear probably around 37 shore is a good place to start
#2904
Originally posted by Proteus
The push comes more mid corner. I would like to say I'm pushing going into a turn....but maybe just slowing down a bit might work. But then again...even people have noticed that I can't carry enough corner speed. This weekend I'm going to try using some drag brake....as I really hate to use brakes. I control my throttle enough where I only use as much as I need; most of the time. As for the belts....I have no idea why they can't last. NCC said he had a problem when he was running a 6.5mm carb insert. With that insert he was going through belts really fast, so he went back down to the stock insert. It seems that with modified motors or high hp motors, belt wear is accelerated. The mugen belts don't seem to have the problem.
The push comes more mid corner. I would like to say I'm pushing going into a turn....but maybe just slowing down a bit might work. But then again...even people have noticed that I can't carry enough corner speed. This weekend I'm going to try using some drag brake....as I really hate to use brakes. I control my throttle enough where I only use as much as I need; most of the time. As for the belts....I have no idea why they can't last. NCC said he had a problem when he was running a 6.5mm carb insert. With that insert he was going through belts really fast, so he went back down to the stock insert. It seems that with modified motors or high hp motors, belt wear is accelerated. The mugen belts don't seem to have the problem.
Interesting info on the belt wear. I will be installing a RB V15 soon, if this motor dont kill the belts nothing will.
#2905
Tech Apprentice
Originally posted by DOMOisCOOL
The stock tires really aren't that bad. They're just expensive.
Fast Tires, Power Tires, Ellegi Tires and some other ones are basically the same brand. I highly recommend those.
Although, Nitro Shoes are pretty good tires also. But I prefer to run spoked rims
The stock tires really aren't that bad. They're just expensive.
Fast Tires, Power Tires, Ellegi Tires and some other ones are basically the same brand. I highly recommend those.
Although, Nitro Shoes are pretty good tires also. But I prefer to run spoked rims
where are you buying your tire from?
Hey by the way, what do you think about running that R40 at RAMS club June 13. If you didn't saw that club running, you'll love it. They have the ROAR national at the end of july. So this club is really popular this year. If you feel like it we could practice from time to time and share a tent there!!!
#2906
Tech Master
Ill race definately this summer
I personally haven't checked out RAMS yet though, when are the races?
Oh yeah, I buy my tires from overseas in HK. But everyone now is having problems with them. Good thing I got them before. RC Tech in Daly City has the HPI Foams, Nitro Shoes, and Yokomo Foams. Their tires are reasonably priced but can be over priced at times. HPI Foams cost 18 a pair
I personally haven't checked out RAMS yet though, when are the races?
Oh yeah, I buy my tires from overseas in HK. But everyone now is having problems with them. Good thing I got them before. RC Tech in Daly City has the HPI Foams, Nitro Shoes, and Yokomo Foams. Their tires are reasonably priced but can be over priced at times. HPI Foams cost 18 a pair
#2907
I just installed the lightweigh battery pack into the car and removed the battery box, transponder mount and I will remove the handle. Overall I saved around 50g just by doing those simple changes.
#2908
Tech Master
AMGRacer, can you post a pic of the battery box mod?
I did the mod also, but taking out the battery and putting it back in is a bit troublesome because there is nothing holding on the part the screws go into.
Ill post a pic of mine tomorrow.
I did the mod also, but taking out the battery and putting it back in is a bit troublesome because there is nothing holding on the part the screws go into.
Ill post a pic of mine tomorrow.
#2909
Originally posted by DOMOisCOOL
AMGRacer, can you post a pic of the battery box mod?
I did the mod also, but taking out the battery and putting it back in is a bit troublesome because there is nothing holding on the part the screws go into.
Ill post a pic of mine tomorrow.
AMGRacer, can you post a pic of the battery box mod?
I did the mod also, but taking out the battery and putting it back in is a bit troublesome because there is nothing holding on the part the screws go into.
Ill post a pic of mine tomorrow.
#2910
Domoiscool- You got to try Monotuning tires!!! I told Lawerence and Terrence to start stocking them. I tried them this weekend and man ohhhh man. First of all NO CHUNKING. I was putting my car through some crazy turns. And the car was hooked.... One pair of tires lasted through the day (no races at delta just some track time). I never had tires like that. I was skeptical but I'm a believer now......... I haven't picked up my other JP from MILF (don't think I forgot about you )..... I'm going to race Delta this year and Rams next.... I'll be there to watch the Nat's and support my Mugen drivers........oh $##$% I'm on a R-40 thread