GT class--buggy-based on road!
#1726
Tech Addict
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http://www.redrc.net/2008/12/bmt-081...-game-chassis/
Let the killing of buggy based on-road GT begins.
Let the killing of buggy based on-road GT begins.
#1727
Tech Master
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But if one racer showed up with belted open on-road car fitted with 1/8 GT body and tires and let them race against the buggy based on-road cars, that will start killing the buggy based on-road cars. Since some racers want to get the advantage and purchase these belted cars.
As an example last year @ SV Speedway, they started a 1/18 Team Associated RC18R class. Then one upgarded with brushless motors with lipo batteries to get the advantage. Then after that one decided to switch to more expensive M18 Pro car with brushless motor and lipo batteries to race these class to get the advantage. Since the rules is not stricly enforced this class died down. They used to race them friday night, the RC18R class already long over before the track closed down.
#1728
Tech Elite
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That's great.... after almost 2 years since calling several manufacturers about racing these buggy based cars on America's on-road tracks to try & grow the popularity of R/C racing into a more economically mainstream direction; still nothing.
I guess the best way to kill a class, is to make sure it dies
Now I guess we'll start seeing these bad boys showing up at our tracks
Nice ride, but I bet it costs more than a new set of Webers Side-Drafts for my real BMW car
SCCA racing... here I come
I guess the best way to kill a class, is to make sure it dies
Now I guess we'll start seeing these bad boys showing up at our tracks
Nice ride, but I bet it costs more than a new set of Webers Side-Drafts for my real BMW car
SCCA racing... here I come
My take is if anyone is going to run this car, they should have bought a MRX4X/Evolva/Serpent 960 type 1/8th scale car. Seems the only difference between those 1/8th scale cars and this BMT car is that you can use the IGT-type tires on it.
#1729
Jspeed,
My take is if anyone is going to run this car, they should have bought a MRX4X/Evolva/Serpent 960 type 1/8th scale car. Seems the only difference between those 1/8th scale cars and this BMT car is that you can use the IGT-type tires on it.
My take is if anyone is going to run this car, they should have bought a MRX4X/Evolva/Serpent 960 type 1/8th scale car. Seems the only difference between those 1/8th scale cars and this BMT car is that you can use the IGT-type tires on it.
Trust me guys, don΄t mess up the GT class, keep it simple, and with some control...if any one wants to go faster get yourself a real 1/8TH On Road car and have fun
AFM
#1730
Tech Fanatic
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You guys are making a big whoo-hah about nothing. The BMT is not for sale in the states, parts are not available in the states, so who is going to order this car from Europe just to find out they might not be allowed to race the car here in the states. Ask the guys at your local track, how many can do such a thing? I don't think you will find a regular GT racer purchasing this type of car.
Lets get back to something productive for the GT class Thread and discuss topics like setups, tires, tire warmers, and more spy pictures MikaR's IGT2. How about some new video of 1/8 GT racing.....anyone....
Lets get back to something productive for the GT class Thread and discuss topics like setups, tires, tire warmers, and more spy pictures MikaR's IGT2. How about some new video of 1/8 GT racing.....anyone....
#1731
Tech Regular
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"spy shots" of my race-tuned GT2
Pullstart is not as racy as a starterbox, but can become handy at the track since it's a large car. Both will work here.
Alum gears make the clutchbell several grams lighter than steel gears. Not as durable though.
Alum shock bodies at rear.
Ball raced servosaver makes steering highly responsive and free
Refuel holes and the pullstart handle
Pullstart is not as racy as a starterbox, but can become handy at the track since it's a large car. Both will work here.
Alum gears make the clutchbell several grams lighter than steel gears. Not as durable though.
Alum shock bodies at rear.
Ball raced servosaver makes steering highly responsive and free
Refuel holes and the pullstart handle
#1732
Just to close my point, following is our set of rules and regulations of our GT class, want to know your opinion.
AFM
1/8 GTS CLASS RULES AND REGULATIONS PERU 2009-2010
1. 1/8 th scale cars, derived from a Buggy platform, or models created for this class but with shaft driven transmission system ONLY.
2. Rubber tires ONLY. Foams are not allowed.
3. Two speed gearbox allowed.
4. No limits on radio and servos.
5. Brakes are free with respect to number and material, as long as they are on the transmission axle.
6. Central differential is not allowed, neither Thorsen type differentials in either axle.
7. Engines allowed
Original equipment engines from any Ready To Run Kit up to .28ci (4.6cc).
Any .21ci (3.5cc) 3 port Off-Road engines, with a maximum MSRP of $200.00.
8. The recoil system (pull start) is optional and may be removed.
9. Only centrifugal shoe type clutches allowed. No Centax type clutches allowed.
10. Gas tanks:
For .28 ci engines you can use either 125 cc or 150cc. tanks.
For .21ci engines only 125cc. tanks are allowed.
11. General dimensions:
Max. Length with body: 730mm
Max. width with body: 336mm
Distance between axles: Min. 270mm / Max. 361mm
Max width outsider of wheels: 310mm
Max. Height of body with rear wing and side plates,
(With the suspension compressed against a flat surface): 340mm
12. Body rules:
Body must be sedan or GT style body, No Can-Am style allowed.
1. The rear of the body can be cut up to 29mm over a flat surface in which the car rests.
2. You can cut the side windows, (sedan body only the front side windows and an appropriate hole for the pull start).
4. You can cut a max. 76.00mm ventilation hole in the front windshield.
5. You can cut the rear window totally.
6. You can cut a max 20.00mm hole on the roof for the igniter.
7. No refueling hole on the roof allowed.
8. You can cut an appropriate hole for pipe stinger.
8. Rear wing must be attached to body and not to chassis.
13. Minimum weight without fuel: 3.300 Kg.
#1733
Tech Regular
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That's great.... after almost 2 years since calling several manufacturers about racing these buggy based cars on America's on-road tracks to try & grow the popularity of R/C racing into a more economically mainstream direction; still nothing.
I guess the best way to kill a class, is to make sure it dies
Now I guess we'll start seeing these bad boys showing up at our tracks
Nice ride, but I bet it costs more than a new set of Webers Side-Drafts for my real BMW car
SCCA racing... here I come
I guess the best way to kill a class, is to make sure it dies
Now I guess we'll start seeing these bad boys showing up at our tracks
Nice ride, but I bet it costs more than a new set of Webers Side-Drafts for my real BMW car
SCCA racing... here I come
#1734
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
I agree with AFM. You have to keep the GT class as a "Buggy-Based" class with shaft drive only and if racers want to run the belt drive kits let them run a seperate "Rally Game" class and they can adapt the rules they use in Europe. I can tell you that those belt drive kits are way more $$$ than a buggy based kit. Some of them are over $800 US and that's for a rolling chassis kit. I'll pass thank you very much. I'm already heavily invested in running the 1/10 200mm nitro class and getting involved in the 1/8 GT class for me means saving some $$$ and sticking with a buggy-based kit.
Regards,
Speyederjedi
Regards,
Speyederjedi
#1736
Me, well yes, back and kiking after almost two years recovery after a brain stroke..... yerba mala nunca muere, jajajajaja
GO .21 Race 3P seems to be a good option hmmm??? haven΄t had hands on one of them engines....do you???
Cya
AFM
#1737
Jspeed
Just have to run these new cars in a seperate class. 1/8 GT Open Belt Drive Class.....
BTW, found the carb for you, only on e bay....
Weber 40-DCOE Side Draft Carburetor BMW
Just have to run these new cars in a seperate class. 1/8 GT Open Belt Drive Class.....
BTW, found the carb for you, only on e bay....
Weber 40-DCOE Side Draft Carburetor BMW
Not that junk, I'm talking about these for "the Beamer"
Hmmmm, let see... buy an engine that costs more than the RC car or buy something for the real car
Yeah.... a true no brainer
#1738
I don't think anybody is making whoo-hahs, or whatever you thought.....we are just expressing our constructive opinion on something, with respect, and consideration....you are free to express yourself to.....no bad feelings
Just to close my point, following is our set of rules and regulations of our GT class, want to know your opinion.
AFM
1/8 GTS CLASS RULES AND REGULATIONS PERU 2009-2010
1. 1/8 th scale cars, derived from a Buggy platform, or models created for this class but with shaft driven transmission system ONLY.
2. Rubber tires ONLY. Foams are not allowed.
3. Two speed gearbox allowed.
4. No limits on radio and servos.
5. Brakes are free with respect to number and material, as long as they are on the transmission axle.
6. Central differential is not allowed, neither Thorsen type differentials in either axle.
7. Engines allowed
Original equipment engines from any Ready To Run Kit up to .28ci (4.6cc).
Any .21ci (3.5cc) 3 port Off-Road engines, with a maximum MSRP of $200.00.
8. The recoil system (pull start) is optional and may be removed.
9. Only centrifugal shoe type clutches allowed. No Centax type clutches allowed.
10. Gas tanks:
For .28 ci engines you can use either 125 cc or 150cc. tanks.
For .21ci engines only 125cc. tanks are allowed.
11. General dimensions:
Max. Length with body: 730mm
Max. width with body: 336mm
Distance between axles: Min. 270mm / Max. 361mm
Max width outsider of wheels: 310mm
Max. Height of body with rear wing and side plates,
(With the suspension compressed against a flat surface): 340mm
12. Body rules:
Body must be sedan or GT style body, No Can-Am style allowed.
1. The rear of the body can be cut up to 29mm over a flat surface in which the car rests.
2. You can cut the side windows, (sedan body only the front side windows and an appropriate hole for the pull start).
4. You can cut a max. 76.00mm ventilation hole in the front windshield.
5. You can cut the rear window totally.
6. You can cut a max 20.00mm hole on the roof for the igniter.
7. No refueling hole on the roof allowed.
8. You can cut an appropriate hole for pipe stinger.
8. Rear wing must be attached to body and not to chassis.
13. Minimum weight without fuel: 3.300 Kg.
Just to close my point, following is our set of rules and regulations of our GT class, want to know your opinion.
AFM
1/8 GTS CLASS RULES AND REGULATIONS PERU 2009-2010
1. 1/8 th scale cars, derived from a Buggy platform, or models created for this class but with shaft driven transmission system ONLY.
2. Rubber tires ONLY. Foams are not allowed.
3. Two speed gearbox allowed.
4. No limits on radio and servos.
5. Brakes are free with respect to number and material, as long as they are on the transmission axle.
6. Central differential is not allowed, neither Thorsen type differentials in either axle.
7. Engines allowed
Original equipment engines from any Ready To Run Kit up to .28ci (4.6cc).
Any .21ci (3.5cc) 3 port Off-Road engines, with a maximum MSRP of $200.00.
8. The recoil system (pull start) is optional and may be removed.
9. Only centrifugal shoe type clutches allowed. No Centax type clutches allowed.
10. Gas tanks:
For .28 ci engines you can use either 125 cc or 150cc. tanks.
For .21ci engines only 125cc. tanks are allowed.
11. General dimensions:
Max. Length with body: 730mm
Max. width with body: 336mm
Distance between axles: Min. 270mm / Max. 361mm
Max width outsider of wheels: 310mm
Max. Height of body with rear wing and side plates,
(With the suspension compressed against a flat surface): 340mm
12. Body rules:
Body must be sedan or GT style body, No Can-Am style allowed.
1. The rear of the body can be cut up to 29mm over a flat surface in which the car rests.
2. You can cut the side windows, (sedan body only the front side windows and an appropriate hole for the pull start).
4. You can cut a max. 76.00mm ventilation hole in the front windshield.
5. You can cut the rear window totally.
6. You can cut a max 20.00mm hole on the roof for the igniter.
7. No refueling hole on the roof allowed.
8. You can cut an appropriate hole for pipe stinger.
8. Rear wing must be attached to body and not to chassis.
13. Minimum weight without fuel: 3.300 Kg.
The OS .21VG is an excellent "Spec" engine with a warranty too
The Spec class guys in Mexico have this OS engine as an option and they have the largest GT Spec class around. No problems or fighting, just good fun.
We should learn from them too