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Old 01-07-2003, 05:38 AM
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Droop affects weight transfer...
Frictiion, and thus Traction, is a function of Weight...
Therefore, Droop affects traction...


Really, droop affects how far your chassis can roll in a corner. Chassis roll transfers weight from side to side. Droop also can affect how much weight is transferred from end to end during acceleration and braking. Any increase of weight on one tire results to increased traction for that tire.
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Old 01-07-2003, 08:28 AM
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hm..... but i think say if u have 4mm front droop and 6mm rear droop then u cut the droop on both ends by 2mm
so u will ahve 2 mm front and 4 mm rear ...

wont u be cutting away all the traction u should have otherwise ??

i just dont understand how it will be better.......

i understand its a valuable tool in setting the on/off power stearing but ....

heh i guess i gota test it for myself ....
will ask if i have any questions
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Since you decreased the front droop, you also decreased the amount by which the front rises on acceleration. This results in lesser weight transferred FROM the front towards the rear (during acceleration). This means, you're keeping more weight on the front tires and you should have more traction as a result.

Decreasing the droop on the rear also prevents weight from transferring from the rear towards the front on deceleration. This translates to more traction on the rear so your tail don't go whipping around during cornering.
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Old 01-07-2003, 07:32 PM
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anyone know the part # of the 0 deg rear upright carrier

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Old 01-07-2003, 08:44 PM
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Tamiya only makes 1° and 2° rear uprights.

1° Plastic Uprights: 50869
1° "Hard" Uprights: 53428
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ok will try to use less droop
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Old 01-08-2003, 06:10 AM
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I was thinking of making my own Hinge pin blocks
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Default US TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIPS

US TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIPS
I resently spoke to some of the TRF drivers from the US and they received the EVO3 kit for use in the US TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIPS at S&N's Trackside Raceway & Hobbies, January 9th - 12th, 2003

It will be interesting to see how well they will fair without any testing time with the new car....or extra parts, guess the M2 will serve as a decent back-up car.

For real time race info. vist the Trackside site at:

http://www.trackside.com/

Best of luck to Dave and Jimmy!




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Old 01-09-2003, 07:32 PM
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i replaced the front one-way w/a diff and metal outdrives. after about 6 mos, there seems to be excessive wear (see pic.) is this normal? im only running stock. are there steel outdrives available (the stock ones seem to be aluminum)? if i switch to delrin for the front, will it last longer? im under the impression that delrin is only for the rear because it may snap in a collision when used in front. thanks for any info
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Old 01-09-2003, 11:57 PM
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Go for the delrin outdrives I also had problem with the metal ones
never use them again.I had the dogbone stuck in that hole (like your picture shows) and I lost damping complitely.

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Default New 414M parts announced

Tamiya Japan announced new bulkhead and chassis parts for the 414M...they appear to be the same parts that Dave Jun designed and has been running on his car for the last six months.






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Old 01-10-2003, 08:08 AM
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I wonder how expensive they will be!?
I suppose a little bit of do it ourself will get to almost the same result.
What do you Guys think?
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Old 01-10-2003, 11:38 AM
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They look very very nice i will be having a set when they come out. Rick
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Old 01-10-2003, 12:48 PM
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49269 Tamiya --- TRF414M Lightweight Front Bulkhead 5,800
49270 Tamiya --- TRF414M Lightweight Rear Bulkhead 9,800
49271 Tamiya --- TRF414M Lightweight Motor Plate 1,500
49272 Tamiya --- TRF414M Carbon Upper Deck 1,600
49273 Tamiya --- TRF414M Carbon Lower Deck 6,000
49274 Tamiya --- TRF414M Damper Stay Front 1,200

It is due to come out 2/2003 in Japan. All prices are in Yen.
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