Losi 8ight building and setup
10-28-2007, 10:37 PM
#5537
The vertical ball stud as always been available with the aluminum carriers that have been available for some time (part number LOSA1711). This is nothing new. What is new, is one of the team drivers actually running them. Typically they have been running the molded carriers. It does look like there maybe a black washer under vertical linkage mount. I would suspect the change is in caster geometry if there is a change other than what is available, but that is just a guess.
The picture shows Truhe running the new optional adjustable front hinge pin brace as well. It's hard impossible to tell what setting he's running. It also appears like he maybe running the #1 camber link position in the shock tower but very hard to tell from that picture. It could be a shadow playing tricks.
The picture shows Truhe running the new optional adjustable front hinge pin brace as well. It's hard impossible to tell what setting he's running. It also appears like he maybe running the #1 camber link position in the shock tower but very hard to tell from that picture. It could be a shadow playing tricks.
10-29-2007, 06:31 AM
#5538
It is not new.......
I have been running the alum carriers since they came out. I have never had a problem with them coming loose or otherwise and it has been raced every week and sometimes twice a week.
I did do one thing they did not do. John will understand. I milled off 2mm + the thickness of a lock washer. You know what the lock washer is for. I use the Xray 1mm, 2mm and 3mm alum shims to make roll center adjustments. It really helps to make this quick adjustment and get back on the track. Lowering the outside will decrease your camber gain during suspension compression will keep the wheel more upright giving more side bite and vise versa. Very cool for blue groove tracks and the such. Dial steering traction in or out very quick.
This is old news.
The Losi hingepin braces are very cool. You can really feel the difference when you dial in more or less kick up. I think the Losi really needed it. Good stuff.
TEX
<----- Not done yet!
I did do one thing they did not do. John will understand. I milled off 2mm + the thickness of a lock washer. You know what the lock washer is for. I use the Xray 1mm, 2mm and 3mm alum shims to make roll center adjustments. It really helps to make this quick adjustment and get back on the track. Lowering the outside will decrease your camber gain during suspension compression will keep the wheel more upright giving more side bite and vise versa. Very cool for blue groove tracks and the such. Dial steering traction in or out very quick.
This is old news.
The Losi hingepin braces are very cool. You can really feel the difference when you dial in more or less kick up. I think the Losi really needed it. Good stuff.
TEX
<----- Not done yet!
10-29-2007, 06:39 AM
#5539
what effects will
driving a lower or higher kick-up angle have
on the performance of the losi ????
driving a lower or higher kick-up angle have
on the performance of the losi ????
10-29-2007, 07:48 AM
#5540
Tech Fanatic
10-29-2007, 08:20 AM
#5541
Lowering the kickup should give more turn in and a little less middle to exit steering. It'll also make the front end a little less stable through the rough. More kickup should do the opposite. It'll make the car a bit smoother all around and less twitchy going into the corner. It'll rotate more in the middle though and be more stable over the rough.
10-29-2007, 10:19 AM
#5543
I've fitted the adjustable hindge pin braces both front and rear to my buggy.
There very nicely made and offer alot of adjustment.
As a bonus with the inserts being replacable you can quickly tighten up any slop that might develop after a crash or prolonged use ......
At the front you "can" also use the different blocks to make roll center adjustments something i believe is over looked in the manual, admittedly you have to be within a certain kick up range to be able to do it though, I guess thats why its not covered.
Anyway IMO a very worth while investment
There very nicely made and offer alot of adjustment.
As a bonus with the inserts being replacable you can quickly tighten up any slop that might develop after a crash or prolonged use ......
At the front you "can" also use the different blocks to make roll center adjustments something i believe is over looked in the manual, admittedly you have to be within a certain kick up range to be able to do it though, I guess thats why its not covered.
Anyway IMO a very worth while investment
Last edited by Merciless; 10-29-2007 at 10:19 AM. Reason: typo
10-29-2007, 03:11 PM
#5547
Matt - Me too. I race and am at the track a ton. Very hard driving. I repinned my front shaft twice, repinned the entire car's drive shafts once, replace a spur gear and rebuilt the shocks about 4 times with all the appropriate parts. That was about $45. This was a full season of hard racing. I do clean and maintain it very well.
Add 3 or four bearings, new clutch shoes and complete new drive shafts for the finals in Nov.
Tires are a little rough. As far as the chassis goes, I'm not complaining! I counted 12 gallons and the thing does not let me down. It has never DNF on broken plastic. I have lost a clutch, but who doesn't in 1/8 racing? I have had drive shaft screws come loose. My fault. It is just attention to detail.
It has stunned me how good and durable it is.
TEX
Add 3 or four bearings, new clutch shoes and complete new drive shafts for the finals in Nov.
Tires are a little rough. As far as the chassis goes, I'm not complaining! I counted 12 gallons and the thing does not let me down. It has never DNF on broken plastic. I have lost a clutch, but who doesn't in 1/8 racing? I have had drive shaft screws come loose. My fault. It is just attention to detail.
It has stunned me how good and durable it is.
TEX
10-29-2007, 03:15 PM
#5548
This is compared to the Mugen I used to use and the Xray me Dad ran. Now we BOTH use Losi's, I think that says alot.
BUT the quality of the parts on the losi is inferior and they do wear faster. Some things like Diff cups for instance never needed replacing in the time i had my Mugen but my losi's only done a few months (6 meetings tops) and needed the cups replacing. The center FRONT drive shaft is well worn although will last alittle longer yet.The little plastic guides on the ackerman plate allow play very quickly, The plastic tie rod ends get sloopy very fast, but are a cheap fix so i change them out often(but this was NEVER needed on the Mugen).
Maybe I simply like my buggy in a closer to new state than some of you .... I don't like excessive play in things. With over 20years racing RC I know how to maintain my buggy's and I know how to make them work for me on race day.
I haven't said it's not a tough buggy.If you fail to finish a race with it, It's YOUR FAULT, It's tuff as old boots(and also very bendy). But thats not to say it dosen't wear quickly. (to clarify quickly ......a good bit faster than the buggy's I'd use as the bench mark of quality MUGEN and XRAY).
All that said I'll still be racing the LOSI on the weekend cause for me it's the fastest
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