Tamiya TRF417
#4968
I was going to purchase a 417 kit from Tamiya USA, they have the kit part number 42200 for 399.99 and diff part number 42185 for 31.01, total would be 431, but they do not ship to Canada, If some one was kind enough to purchase the items and ship them to me, my postal code is n3c3w5 Ontario Canada, I would paypal you the money plus the shipping, please pm me if you can help me out thanks
#4970
Tech Rookie
fresh 417v5
Hi guys,
I have finally finished the build, and test run it with 17.5t tekin esc/motor combo. I am wondering how fast a 17.5t cars should be I was using 27t pinion and 113 spur. I feel it was a bit slow or not sure what else i need to do to make it faster.
I conneted esc to hotwire and havent changed default settings, still on dual/locked spec mode I believe, the interface/window applet of hotwire is amazing too
your input to a newbie is highly appreciated, thanks.
Here are some of the pics
I have finally finished the build, and test run it with 17.5t tekin esc/motor combo. I am wondering how fast a 17.5t cars should be I was using 27t pinion and 113 spur. I feel it was a bit slow or not sure what else i need to do to make it faster.
I conneted esc to hotwire and havent changed default settings, still on dual/locked spec mode I believe, the interface/window applet of hotwire is amazing too
your input to a newbie is highly appreciated, thanks.
Here are some of the pics
#4971
Hi guys,
I have finally finished the build, and test run it with 17.5t tekin esc/motor combo. I am wondering how fast a 17.5t cars should be I was using 27t pinion and 113 spur. I feel it was a bit slow or not sure what else i need to do to make it faster.
I conneted esc to hotwire and havent changed default settings, still on dual/locked spec mode I believe, the interface/window applet of hotwire is amazing too
your input to a newbie is highly appreciated, thanks.
Here are some of the pics
I have finally finished the build, and test run it with 17.5t tekin esc/motor combo. I am wondering how fast a 17.5t cars should be I was using 27t pinion and 113 spur. I feel it was a bit slow or not sure what else i need to do to make it faster.
I conneted esc to hotwire and havent changed default settings, still on dual/locked spec mode I believe, the interface/window applet of hotwire is amazing too
your input to a newbie is highly appreciated, thanks.
Here are some of the pics
#4972
I have the 417x and I have been running 64 pich 98t and my piñon is a 53thar shud get you in the rite spot.
#4973
Tech Regular
iTrader: (23)
Nice car, you might want to drill holes in the tops of your ball cups or cut the tops off with a hobby knife. This will allow you remove the ball studs with a 2mm wrench without having to pop the ball cup off first thus keeping from stretching out the ball cup sockets.
The further back the weight of components is on a car the faster it will rotate in a corner. So you might want to mount your receiver and speed control closer to the motor after running the car for awhile.
Assuming your are running 17.5 blinky class (no esc timing) I would shoot for about a 3.5 FDR to start with the motor endbell timing cranked all the way up. I also recommend a Yeah Racing tornado fan mounted 6-8 mm behind the motor to keep the motor cool.
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=2334
For blinky mode you should use the hot wire and set the speed control to sensored only with the timing set to C1. It looks like you are in dual mode which is sensored start only then the esc stops looking at the sensors once the motor is rolling along.
If your esc is set to forward only nevermind the following.......... If set to have delayed reverse for practice change your reverse speed from 100 to about 30. Otherwise you will be scarred silly the first time you grab full speed reverse by accident.
Have fun!
The further back the weight of components is on a car the faster it will rotate in a corner. So you might want to mount your receiver and speed control closer to the motor after running the car for awhile.
Assuming your are running 17.5 blinky class (no esc timing) I would shoot for about a 3.5 FDR to start with the motor endbell timing cranked all the way up. I also recommend a Yeah Racing tornado fan mounted 6-8 mm behind the motor to keep the motor cool.
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=2334
For blinky mode you should use the hot wire and set the speed control to sensored only with the timing set to C1. It looks like you are in dual mode which is sensored start only then the esc stops looking at the sensors once the motor is rolling along.
If your esc is set to forward only nevermind the following.......... If set to have delayed reverse for practice change your reverse speed from 100 to about 30. Otherwise you will be scarred silly the first time you grab full speed reverse by accident.
Have fun!
#4974
Tech Rookie
Thanks guys for the replies
@sosidge:
Ok i will try to get to 3:1 or 4:1. i pressumed that is what you meant.
@ tamiya:
Ok i will need to compute for fdr with those gears. Btw, do you have the tamiya part number for 98t spur handy? I am using tamiya 0.4 pinions, not sure if tamiya has 98t spur that goes with 0.4mm pinions. I will have to google it later.
@ SS LS1
Im still trying to grasp the terms about drilling holes in ball cups, are there any pics posted so i get a better picture of what you ment there?
Ok i will try to re position the esc and receiver closer to motor.
Final drive ratio of 3.5, ok got it, hmmm from the supplied spur 111t the lowest fdr i can get to is 4.8... So i need lesser number of spur teeth then, will look for a tamiya brand then, to be sure it is 0.4.
Fan motor position, behind motor means rear end of the car? Also how do you mount it? With heatsink is better?
I will play around with the hotwire settings as you suggested.
About motor endbell timing how do i crank it all the way up?
Thanks again guys.
@sosidge:
Ok i will try to get to 3:1 or 4:1. i pressumed that is what you meant.
@ tamiya:
Ok i will need to compute for fdr with those gears. Btw, do you have the tamiya part number for 98t spur handy? I am using tamiya 0.4 pinions, not sure if tamiya has 98t spur that goes with 0.4mm pinions. I will have to google it later.
@ SS LS1
Im still trying to grasp the terms about drilling holes in ball cups, are there any pics posted so i get a better picture of what you ment there?
Ok i will try to re position the esc and receiver closer to motor.
Final drive ratio of 3.5, ok got it, hmmm from the supplied spur 111t the lowest fdr i can get to is 4.8... So i need lesser number of spur teeth then, will look for a tamiya brand then, to be sure it is 0.4.
Fan motor position, behind motor means rear end of the car? Also how do you mount it? With heatsink is better?
I will play around with the hotwire settings as you suggested.
About motor endbell timing how do i crank it all the way up?
Thanks again guys.
#4975
Tech Master
iTrader: (35)
Don't bother with trying to find Tamiya spurs that size. I'm pretty sure they don't make them for the 417. RW racing V2 spurs work really well. You can get them through Speedtech RC.
#4978
#4980
spur divided by pinion X internal gear ratio. The internal gear ratio is the large pulley divided by the centre pulley. Ex. 100 spur divided by 42 pinion X 1.947 (internal ratio of TRF417) = 4.63