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04-04-2008, 03:12 AM
#6526
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One word - NORMAL.
All the Type A 60D's do it. And there's no real way around it. Raising the ride height helps, but then the car doesn't work...
Putting the moulded insert on the Outside (next to the tread) helps a little with a double stuffed set, but the bottom line is you gotta live with this sort of wear on Type A 60D's.
Getting 6 heats and 2 finals out of a set of fronts is actually pretty good!
All the Type A 60D's do it. And there's no real way around it. Raising the ride height helps, but then the car doesn't work...
Putting the moulded insert on the Outside (next to the tread) helps a little with a double stuffed set, but the bottom line is you gotta live with this sort of wear on Type A 60D's.
Getting 6 heats and 2 finals out of a set of fronts is actually pretty good!
04-04-2008, 03:38 AM
#6527
Thanks Tony. Coming from a touring car background I though I was doing something wrong. Anyway, is there a better tyre/insert/wheel combo available? I understand there has been a fair bit of change in this area lately with changes in compund and some manufacturers dropping right out.
Also, thanks for your efforts on the mini website. A truly helpful resource.
Also, thanks for your efforts on the mini website. A truly helpful resource.
04-04-2008, 05:16 AM
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Yep, Tony's right- that's a pretty normal wear pattern for Type A's, especially with the higher speeds on asphalt attained with a sport tuned motor. My guess is that your track also has a fairly long main straight with a left turn/sweeper at the end of it leading into the infield- that puts a lot of strain on the inside of the tire. You can swap the fronts left to right after each heat (although some drivers swear that the tires wear-in in one direction, but that's a whole other discussion) and that will extend their death, but at the end of the day they're just gonna wear out.
04-04-2008, 05:30 AM
#6529
Shock help
Help a little bit fellas,
Built my shocks(mini platics ones) the other night for my mini, VERY careful to assemble them with the 6mm spacers, install on the car check ride height and got it to 5mm. Checked uptravel and seemed too much 3 front and 2.5 rear. I was able to space the fronts to limit uptravel to just 1mm but rear spacing did not allow retainer on the shock. Had to install the spring then screw on end and retainer together. Is it possible that a car that turns so much has to have that much rear uptravel?
Racing Saturday and thinking I might be in for a quick shock rebuild to changes this but what do you mini gurus think?
Built my shocks(mini platics ones) the other night for my mini, VERY careful to assemble them with the 6mm spacers, install on the car check ride height and got it to 5mm. Checked uptravel and seemed too much 3 front and 2.5 rear. I was able to space the fronts to limit uptravel to just 1mm but rear spacing did not allow retainer on the shock. Had to install the spring then screw on end and retainer together. Is it possible that a car that turns so much has to have that much rear uptravel?
Racing Saturday and thinking I might be in for a quick shock rebuild to changes this but what do you mini gurus think?
04-04-2008, 08:46 AM
#6530
i dunno... my double stuffed As were ran for the entire 2006 TCS Memphis and the Beat the Heat race the same year, and still dont show any signs of the Death Groove yet. ill start with them this year as well... bur i do have a new set, just in case!
04-04-2008, 09:09 AM
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Memphis and Laurel are different animals. Both are very easy on tires. Either that or you're just slow 
Plus, we also run silver cans and I think he's running black cans = higher speed and more scrub.
Plus, we also run silver cans and I think he's running black cans = higher speed and more scrub.
04-04-2008, 03:58 PM
#6534
Hey all,
I picked up a hardcase lipo pack that I'd like to run in at least one of my Mini's. Those of you who've done this with something other than the 3200 Orion know that the corners of the case interfere with the battery hole through the chassis. I know it's not TCS-legal, but what's the best way to relieve the battery corners into the battery hole in the chassis? If it was just either side of the chassis it would be easy-peazy, but the battery hole is really an oblong tube so as far as I can tell I'll have to notch both sides of that tube for it's entire width.
Thanks,
Scottrik
I picked up a hardcase lipo pack that I'd like to run in at least one of my Mini's. Those of you who've done this with something other than the 3200 Orion know that the corners of the case interfere with the battery hole through the chassis. I know it's not TCS-legal, but what's the best way to relieve the battery corners into the battery hole in the chassis? If it was just either side of the chassis it would be easy-peazy, but the battery hole is really an oblong tube so as far as I can tell I'll have to notch both sides of that tube for it's entire width.
Thanks,
Scottrik
04-04-2008, 07:18 PM
#6535
Tires for street running
Hi all,
What will be the good tires for general street running? I think the Spice, Ride, etc. are just too expensive if not for racing on a track, unless they can out last the inexpensive ones, then their cost can be justified.
TIA.
What will be the good tires for general street running? I think the Spice, Ride, etc. are just too expensive if not for racing on a track, unless they can out last the inexpensive ones, then their cost can be justified.
TIA.
04-04-2008, 08:07 PM
#6536
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You're in HK? Then that's an easy question.
For $4.00pr you cant beat the Xpress tires (here) for bashing... Or the 3 racing equivalent which are $6.00....
For $4.00pr you cant beat the Xpress tires (here) for bashing... Or the 3 racing equivalent which are $6.00....
04-05-2008, 10:20 PM
#6537
Thanks, Tony.
I don't know about the Xpress, but I've seen and touched the 3Racing, feels extremely hard.... May be that's why it's good for street use?
I don't know about the Xpress, but I've seen and touched the 3Racing, feels extremely hard...
. May be that's why it's good for street use?
04-06-2008, 09:06 AM
#6538
Anybody know?
Help a little bit fellas,
Built my shocks(mini platics ones) the other night for my mini, VERY careful to assemble them with the 6mm spacers, install on the car check ride height and got it to 5mm. Checked uptravel and seemed too much 3 front and 2.5 rear. I was able to space the fronts to limit uptravel to just 1mm but rear spacing did not allow retainer on the shock. Had to install the spring then screw on end and retainer together. Is it possible that a car that turns so much has to have that much rear uptravel?
Racing Saturday and thinking I might be in for a quick shock rebuild to changes this but what do you mini gurus think?
Built my shocks(mini platics ones) the other night for my mini, VERY careful to assemble them with the 6mm spacers, install on the car check ride height and got it to 5mm. Checked uptravel and seemed too much 3 front and 2.5 rear. I was able to space the fronts to limit uptravel to just 1mm but rear spacing did not allow retainer on the shock. Had to install the spring then screw on end and retainer together. Is it possible that a car that turns so much has to have that much rear uptravel?
Racing Saturday and thinking I might be in for a quick shock rebuild to changes this but what do you mini gurus think?
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04-07-2008, 03:25 PM
#6539
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Well, had the frist run out with my Mini and it's exige this weekend. What can I say, it was excellent, car ran flawlessly all day. Only issues was when I bolted on brand new S-grips, (rather than the worn M's) way too much steering! Think I need to go to 6mm of shims in the rear shocks when running the S's. Still motor and battery performed faultlessly, and was really suprised with the level of brakes the car has 
Did a bit of an endurance run at one point, and with a Orion 3200 LiPo, was at 20mins runtime before I decided to pull the car off, rather than risk the pack (even with a LiPo cutoff enabled on the speedy). Makes running the car easy, as just need to top up the pack for each run.
Interestingly enough, the motor was barely even warm, so really happy with it. Now just to get the BL2 motor, and away we go.
Oh, also picked up a foam bumper (by Square, here) for the mini too, works really well, and helps protect the shell wonderfully
Cheers
Ed
Did a bit of an endurance run at one point, and with a Orion 3200 LiPo, was at 20mins runtime before I decided to pull the car off, rather than risk the pack (even with a LiPo cutoff enabled on the speedy). Makes running the car easy, as just need to top up the pack for each run.
Interestingly enough, the motor was barely even warm, so really happy with it. Now just to get the BL2 motor, and away we go.
Oh, also picked up a foam bumper (by Square, here) for the mini too, works really well, and helps protect the shell wonderfully
Cheers
Ed
Also are you guys gluing the rubber to the rims?
04-07-2008, 03:30 PM
#6540
And yes, all my tyres are glued to the rims.
HiH
Ed