Picco TORQUE versus Novarossi topic
11-02-2011, 05:35 AM
#61
Hi Brent,
we have raised the sleeve on a Torque by 0.1 and 0.2 mm in order to gain top end.
We did, but it hurt the fuel consumption.
I rather gear the Piccos a bit longer than Novas to get the same top speed.
What also helped to gain some revs w/o hurting fuel consumption is using the Nova medium conical header with the Picco 2033 pipe.
we have raised the sleeve on a Torque by 0.1 and 0.2 mm in order to gain top end.
We did, but it hurt the fuel consumption.
I rather gear the Piccos a bit longer than Novas to get the same top speed.
What also helped to gain some revs w/o hurting fuel consumption is using the Nova medium conical header with the Picco 2033 pipe.
11-02-2011, 07:19 AM
#62
WOW! Thanks wingracer, I didn't know you knew about my drag racing stuff
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To all, here's a little background on what I do and why I have asked what your thoughts are on the Picco TQ.
I make all my own parts and chassis stuff. This past June 2011, my chassis's set both ends of the ET and MPH records. Dominique Thorpe ran 1.58 to reset the old record of 1.60 and I ran 85.2 MPH to take the old 82.1 MPH record. Look here for our accomplishments. It says that I have the record speed at 84.1 but that is a typo. The record is 85.2 MPH.
http://www.rockinghamdragway.com/results/2011/rcdrags/
.To all, here's a little background on what I do and why I have asked what your thoughts are on the Picco TQ.
I make all my own parts and chassis stuff. This past June 2011, my chassis's set both ends of the ET and MPH records. Dominique Thorpe ran 1.58 to reset the old record of 1.60 and I ran 85.2 MPH to take the old 82.1 MPH record. Look here for our accomplishments. It says that I have the record speed at 84.1 but that is a typo. The record is 85.2 MPH.
http://www.rockinghamdragway.com/results/2011/rcdrags/
11-02-2011, 07:28 AM
#63
Any new news on the Picco TQ.
Last edited by Brent Davis; 01-04-2012 at 04:48 AM.
11-02-2011, 06:31 PM
#65
11-06-2011, 01:20 PM
#66
http://news.efra.ws/fileadmin/news/2...dar_2012V4.pdf
(not even a refuling is alowed with a pitstop for tuning or repairs)
But for the finales nothing is sayed so 3:30 engines can still be used in the finals......
11-06-2011, 01:25 PM
#67
Man that is going to be tough for fast guys on the big tracks, especially if you have to run 25% control fuel.
11-06-2011, 02:09 PM
#68
Tech Regular
Nova Flash 21 PTS will run 5+ minutes with the right configuration. We just did it at the ROAR Nats. Qualified 1, 2, 4, 5 & 6th and finished 1, 3 & 4th.
Euro drivers with Nova power will still be at the front next year.
Euro drivers with Nova power will still be at the front next year.
11-06-2011, 07:15 PM
#69
If it comes down to de-tuning your engine either with clutch, nitro or pipe/header to make time, I'll save the extra $300 and not buy a novarossi!!!! I have probably had 20+ .21 nova based engines over the years and in my opinion they are fast, but most are thirsty. The only exception was my experience running the Max Power tq's. Picco in my opinion has more torque, way better fuel mileage, and offers way more bang for your buck without sacrificing performance! Hopefully picco does not change a good thing for 2012. Many engine companies have went fishing just to end up ruining a good thing.
11-07-2011, 12:43 PM
#70
The German nationals were won by Steven Cuypers with an insanly fast Picco Torque this year.......
11-07-2011, 03:18 PM
#71
11-08-2011, 08:36 PM
#72
Tech Adept
If it comes down to de-tuning your engine either with clutch, nitro or pipe/header to make time, I'll save the extra $300 and not buy a novarossi!!!! I have probably had 20+ .21 nova based engines over the years and in my opinion they are fast, but most are thirsty. The only exception was my experience running the Max Power tq's. Picco in my opinion has more torque, way better fuel mileage, and offers way more bang for your buck without sacrificing performance! Hopefully picco does not change a good thing for 2012. Many engine companies have went fishing just to end up ruining a good thing.
11-08-2011, 11:54 PM
#73
My personal fastest laptime on my home track is set with a 5 port engine. What doess the number of ports say?
One olde quote from Ron Paris:
One olde quote from Ron Paris:
COMMON ENGINE QUESTION - HOW MANY PORTS DOES AN ENGINE NEED?
More is not indicative of being better. If more ports were the only solution to more power, all engines would have maximum number of ports. Simply put, there is only so much room for ports in any given displacement engine. Some engines with twice the ports can have less total port area. This is not good or bad - it is just different. Every thing is a combination of many variables. Some of the most powerful engines I have built were three ports! We top qualified the world championships in Holland with a three port engine wile many of the competitors were using 5, 6, 7 and even 8 port engines and we had the fastest top speeds displayed on the board. It is true in most cases that within any brand of engine their power ratings go up with the amount of ports, but this is due to more than just the quantity of ports. Generally there are many other components in the engine that have more refined or modified parts than those with less ports, complementing the combination. You can only compare the quantity of ports between engines of the same manufacture. They all have their own combinations. In other words, brand A’s 17 port may or may not run equal to brand B’s 29 port.
More is not indicative of being better. If more ports were the only solution to more power, all engines would have maximum number of ports. Simply put, there is only so much room for ports in any given displacement engine. Some engines with twice the ports can have less total port area. This is not good or bad - it is just different. Every thing is a combination of many variables. Some of the most powerful engines I have built were three ports! We top qualified the world championships in Holland with a three port engine wile many of the competitors were using 5, 6, 7 and even 8 port engines and we had the fastest top speeds displayed on the board. It is true in most cases that within any brand of engine their power ratings go up with the amount of ports, but this is due to more than just the quantity of ports. Generally there are many other components in the engine that have more refined or modified parts than those with less ports, complementing the combination. You can only compare the quantity of ports between engines of the same manufacture. They all have their own combinations. In other words, brand A’s 17 port may or may not run equal to brand B’s 29 port.
11-09-2011, 03:58 AM
#74
Everybody is entitled their own opinions, but i think you are not correct in the price difference. Nowadays, you can buy a Novarossi 9 port engine steel bearings for almost the same price as the stock Torque. An the top of the line Nova single ceramic bearing for little over $100 than a Edo mod. So yes is more expensive but not $300.
11-09-2011, 04:39 AM
#75
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ine-Turbo-Plug