NW WGT and 1/12. What to do?
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Lipo is the wave of the furture! I think the 1 cell lipo is going to be the way to go in 1/12 and or 4 round cells the wgt is still up in the air for batterys and motors but i think the 1 cell may make it there also 13.5 brushless for pan car is the motor most likly. the sedan rubber class is a good place to start and we also run a sportsman 1/12 here and you can run stock or 17.5 brushless and 4 cell or 1 cell lipo and that would be a great place to start pan car.
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Lipo is the wave of the furture! I think the 1 cell lipo is going to be the way to go in 1/12 and or 4 round cells the wgt is still up in the air for batterys and motors but i think the 1 cell may make it there also 13.5 brushless for pan car is the motor most likly. the sedan rubber class is a good place to start and we also run a sportsman 1/12 here and you can run stock or 17.5 brushless and 4 cell or 1 cell lipo and that would be a great place to start pan car.
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Thanks! I live in Newberg Oregon but I have been calling R/C Plus in Salem my future home track. We moved to Oregon a little over a year ago from Sedro Woolley, WA. I was looking for somthing I could include my son in. I spent aprox. 30 years involved in big car racing but the wifie says, no way! no more!
So with that being said; I liked the looks of the touring cars for the sophistication side, my son and I like the looks of the 1/12. The WGT came into the picture when I was told they are needing more cars so I said why not?
Batteries: I have not invested in any yet, My thought was to get the lipo's for the Touring car and race it first and I am going to buy 2 SMC 1s lipo,s to put it the WGT and 1/12 and practice with them for a little while and see where the rules go in the next 60 days. (I plan on holding out, hoping to go to all lipo.) Also, What chargers, Balancers ect... should I be looking at?
Speed Controllers: The Tour car came with a Quantum II comp. but I plan on changing this as soon as I get more informed. I have no motors, speed controllers ect... for 1/12 and WGT cars so... I need some direction here also.
Keeping in mind I will be trying to keep cars for me and my son on the track, so I thought going to pan cars may be a little less work, not that I am not willing to work on these cars but I am only home for 7 days then gone again for 14.
Cost: I do understand and am willing to invest in the wholesome fun with my son and great people like yourself.
Xbox: Don't have one, Don't plan to have one any time soon, the outdoors is way more fun! at least it was back in the day.
Thanks to everyone for taking time to give your input, it is a huge, HUGE! help!
So with that being said; I liked the looks of the touring cars for the sophistication side, my son and I like the looks of the 1/12. The WGT came into the picture when I was told they are needing more cars so I said why not?
Batteries: I have not invested in any yet, My thought was to get the lipo's for the Touring car and race it first and I am going to buy 2 SMC 1s lipo,s to put it the WGT and 1/12 and practice with them for a little while and see where the rules go in the next 60 days. (I plan on holding out, hoping to go to all lipo.) Also, What chargers, Balancers ect... should I be looking at?
Speed Controllers: The Tour car came with a Quantum II comp. but I plan on changing this as soon as I get more informed. I have no motors, speed controllers ect... for 1/12 and WGT cars so... I need some direction here also.
Keeping in mind I will be trying to keep cars for me and my son on the track, so I thought going to pan cars may be a little less work, not that I am not willing to work on these cars but I am only home for 7 days then gone again for 14.
Cost: I do understand and am willing to invest in the wholesome fun with my son and great people like yourself.
Xbox: Don't have one, Don't plan to have one any time soon, the outdoors is way more fun! at least it was back in the day.
Thanks to everyone for taking time to give your input, it is a huge, HUGE! help!
Ok great information. So since you used to race real cars, you understand racing competitively at any level is not cheap. that being said... LRP sphere TCs are excellent speed controllers. for the touring car. the quantum is a brushed motor ESC from what i can remember. You're going to want to go to brushless for ease of maintenance. I would suggest getting an LRP SphereTC for the touring car and a 17.5 motor from trinity or hacker. That setup will definitely be competitive for your son. If you need to tone it down to start off with so he gets the hang of it, the sphere can still do brushed motors so you can slap in a silver can for training purposes with no problem.
for the WGT i also run a SphereTC but you could run a regular sphere without the heatsink and be just fine. WGT has plenty of room for the fan under the body. The lipo debate is still going hot n heavy. If you want to compete in the WGT class right now you'll need to get some 4cells. I dont see it being a big deal but for some reason people are turned off by round cells. but they're cheap, $50 gets you a platinum pack and the fact remains they are the only legal battery for WGT at the moment. for club racing you could get by with a 1slipo but don't expect to win and the 2s lipos wont fit in the 10r5 without modification. so in short get one of the following combinations for motors and batteries.
legal now: 13.5 brushless with 4cell nimh
legal soon(maybe): 10.5 or 8.5 with 1s lipo
The 12th scale... I don't race 12th yet but i'm moving that direction. Most of the 12th scales on the market are whats known as a t-bar car. meaning you have to use nimh saddle packs. you have a 12r5 which uses 4cell side by side which also leaves you the option for 1s lipo. However i dont think that official rules are going to incorporate 1s lipo for some time. so this brings you back to needing 4cells for legal comp. As for motor, i think that 13.5 is what everyone runs in 12th in this area with 4cells. I think todd mason was running a 1s lipo car at the last nwic race with a 10.5 motor but he would have to confirm that. You will need a low profile speed control because the bodies are so low on these cars. The regular sphere would be perfect.
Charging equipment. Since you're probably going with a mix of nimh and lipo, and you want to run at least two cars, I would suggest getting 2 duratrax ICE chargers and an inline lipo balancer from team checkpoint. I have an ICE that i use for my lipos and a Turbo35 GFX for my nimh. The ICE will do both lipo and nimh nicely tho and its cheap.
Radios, 2.4ghz is really the way to go these days. Spektrum makes a good product as does Futaba. Spektrum seems to be more sensitive to bumps but the DSM2 technology kicks butt. Futaba is a tougher radio and generally very stable and is a mainstay of the RC hobby. However the Fasst system doesn't do frequency hopping so there is the potential for an occasional glitch from what i've found.
Lastly, Ron at RCPlus is awesome. I live in Seattle but regularly race at Timezone and he is nice enough to take orders from me on the phone or on here and bring the stuff to the track when we all meet for racing. He's also a racer and will point you in the right direction for the local popular setups and will get you all your equipment for a good price.
Someone said it best on here and i cant remember who said it. but "eBay's track is hard to find, so support your local hobby shop"
I hope this info is helpful and not overwhelming. Best thing to do is go to Ron and just say "what do I need?"
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Rewp, You have been a great help getting me pointed in the right direction, now I need to get busy putting this all together. From now on I will make sure I purchase my stuff from my LHS.
I am thinking about heading up north to check out the races this weekend. I hope you will be there.
One last question for all, What do you guys think would be the best choice for us in TC, Rubber of Foam? and can the corally RDX (I think 07 model) be changed over with some success to run Rubber OR foam. Well...dang it, that was two questions.
I am thinking about heading up north to check out the races this weekend. I hope you will be there.
One last question for all, What do you guys think would be the best choice for us in TC, Rubber of Foam? and can the corally RDX (I think 07 model) be changed over with some success to run Rubber OR foam. Well...dang it, that was two questions.
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Rewp, You have been a great help getting me pointed in the right direction, now I need to get busy putting this all together. From now on I will make sure I purchase my stuff from my LHS.
I am thinking about heading up north to check out the races this weekend. I hope you will be there.
One last question for all, What do you guys think would be the best choice for us in TC, Rubber of Foam? and can the corally RDX (I think 07 model) be changed over with some success to run Rubber OR foam. Well...dang it, that was two questions.
I am thinking about heading up north to check out the races this weekend. I hope you will be there.
One last question for all, What do you guys think would be the best choice for us in TC, Rubber of Foam? and can the corally RDX (I think 07 model) be changed over with some success to run Rubber OR foam. Well...dang it, that was two questions.
I think im going to come down for a visit on saturday... unfortunately tho i dont think I'll be able to compete. I have some stressful projects that are coming to an end on sunday night. They were originally scheduled for thursday night but got pushed back. So i have to be on my game for that. If i race then i'll be in a traction compound fog for a few days. And i just just cant take the risk. Jack might not smell but it sure is toxic.
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Rewp, You have been a great help getting me pointed in the right direction, now I need to get busy putting this all together. From now on I will make sure I purchase my stuff from my LHS.
I am thinking about heading up north to check out the races this weekend. I hope you will be there.
One last question for all, What do you guys think would be the best choice for us in TC, Rubber of Foam? and can the corally RDX (I think 07 model) be changed over with some success to run Rubber OR foam. Well...dang it, that was two questions.
I am thinking about heading up north to check out the races this weekend. I hope you will be there.
One last question for all, What do you guys think would be the best choice for us in TC, Rubber of Foam? and can the corally RDX (I think 07 model) be changed over with some success to run Rubber OR foam. Well...dang it, that was two questions.
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I read the part about you having been to RC plus, I also read the part about you going "up north" this weekend to check out the races, I also read the part about you being in oregon and plan on making rc plus your home track. while at timezone this weekend you will probably see more lipo 17.5 CRC chassis then anything else, Timezone carries these cars and support them, so if racing there that is what i would go with, If racing at Rc plus is going to be a main stay, talk to ron and go with what he suggests.
here in the WAY UP NORTH (seattle/tacoma area)were having the big debate on club rules for the upcoming outdoor season, its been here, its been there, rules have been decided then thrown out. don't let any of that effect your decision on what to do, just go with the track that your going to be racing at, don't be afraid of the speed of a lipo 17.5 car for your son or yourself, you can turn the end points on the radio down so your only getting 1/2 throttle or where ever you decide is a good starting point, and then just turn it up a little at a time. that way you only have to buy once. oh and it wasn't mentioned, but buy a good radio, it makes a world of difference.
good luck and happy racing.
ritchie
here in the WAY UP NORTH (seattle/tacoma area)were having the big debate on club rules for the upcoming outdoor season, its been here, its been there, rules have been decided then thrown out. don't let any of that effect your decision on what to do, just go with the track that your going to be racing at, don't be afraid of the speed of a lipo 17.5 car for your son or yourself, you can turn the end points on the radio down so your only getting 1/2 throttle or where ever you decide is a good starting point, and then just turn it up a little at a time. that way you only have to buy once. oh and it wasn't mentioned, but buy a good radio, it makes a world of difference.
good luck and happy racing.
ritchie
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I read the part about you having been to RC plus, I also read the part about you going "up north" this weekend to check out the races, I also read the part about you being in oregon and plan on making rc plus your home track. while at timezone this weekend you will probably see more lipo 17.5 CRC chassis then anything else, Timezone carries these cars and support them, so if racing there that is what i would go with, If racing at Rc plus is going to be a main stay, talk to ron and go with what he suggests.
here in the WAY UP NORTH (seattle/tacoma area)were having the big debate on club rules for the upcoming outdoor season, its been here, its been there, rules have been decided then thrown out. don't let any of that effect your decision on what to do, just go with the track that your going to be racing at, don't be afraid of the speed of a lipo 17.5 car for your son or yourself, you can turn the end points on the radio down so your only getting 1/2 throttle or where ever you decide is a good starting point, and then just turn it up a little at a time. that way you only have to buy once. oh and it wasn't mentioned, but buy a good radio, it makes a world of difference.
good luck and happy racing.
ritchie
here in the WAY UP NORTH (seattle/tacoma area)were having the big debate on club rules for the upcoming outdoor season, its been here, its been there, rules have been decided then thrown out. don't let any of that effect your decision on what to do, just go with the track that your going to be racing at, don't be afraid of the speed of a lipo 17.5 car for your son or yourself, you can turn the end points on the radio down so your only getting 1/2 throttle or where ever you decide is a good starting point, and then just turn it up a little at a time. that way you only have to buy once. oh and it wasn't mentioned, but buy a good radio, it makes a world of difference.
good luck and happy racing.
ritchie