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Old 02-26-2015, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sickboy
no chance the promoters are giving up 1/4 to 1/3 of the entries.
Example:
-Everyone (999 entries/333 racers) at the DNC ran three classes let's say 100$ + 50$ + 50$ respective class;
-200$ x 333 = 66600$ income.

Now capped to 1 class would be 333 racers (but you can technically fit 999 into the race program! see why in the first part of the example):
- 100$ x 333 = 33300$
- 100$ x 999 = 99900$

For the capped classes to happen the attendance has to grow and sure it can. Management has a loss if class price stays the same but can profit more if more racers come and still have the same amount of races/work. The key words here being "more racers".

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One thread on this forum is talking about why the hobby isn't growing....then this thread is talking about limiting entries and keeping people from running multiple classes. IMO we NEED BIGGER races and more media coverage...... *snip*
Yes but you can limit classes without limiting entries, that's what I'm talking about. Imagine like one racer alone driving 1/8th nitro and electric, 1/10th nitro and electric and claiming the track got 4 classes, it had 4 classes but with one racer at a time. Also not being picky but everyone should spread the word about RC not just the media
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Originally Posted by ctsvls2
This is a business.....you are correct.

IMO we NEED BIGGER races and more media coverage......

If I travel across states and spend the money on fuel/airfare/rent car/food/hotel....Im gonna run as many classes as I have! LOL.

Let it grow......let it grow.......
Pretty good media coverage of the TV's stolen cars.....

Yes let it grow. But a controlled grow. Not a Python epidemic like in Florida...

3-4 classes split into 3 groups. Nitro Buggy, Nitro Truggy, E-buggy, and one more, pick one... if any, but the +40 class is always a good one.

Sportsman- No sponsorships what so ever. E-buggy not offered.
Open- No Chassis or motor Sponsorships. Both nitro classes and E-buggy
Pro-Open to any and all. All classes.
And +40. Nitro buggy and Truggy only.

Wednesday and Thursday open practice.
Friday practice till 11AM for those that couldn't make it on the previous 2 days ( must show proof) 12pm One round of heats.
Saturday 2 heats, lower mains. Finish around 10PM.
Sunday, finish the mains.

Easy peasy.

Cap the entries at 1200. Make it $75 per class. Not $100 for the first, $50 for the second....
There will be guys running all 4. Most will run at least 2 or 3. Makes the promoter money, days will be shorter, track time is equal(ish) race is still off the hook.

Just an idea.
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For the math portion...

1200 entries at $75 a piece=$90000.
1000=$75000
750=$56500

Got to pay to play. If you run all 4, yes that's $300. But if you have 4 different cars or are able to run 4all 4 classes, you will make it work
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You know this hobby rocks when people pay $300 just to participate.
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Originally Posted by air8
You know this hobby rocks when people pay $300 just to participate.
Running Late models and Modified's was anywhere from $100 for a local show (run of the mill everyday weekend) to $250 for a $5000 to win just to enter into the race. That didn't include pit passes at $25 a piece ( yes, most of that was for insurance). Pit would rake in 5-7k for the normal weekends and 10-15k easy on the big races.

Last time I went to PNB, I spent $200 just in entries. 150 for the 2 nitros and 50 for the electric. It was the third class that got me the $25 discount

I ran that one just to get extra track time.

That was one of the years that Lutz ran all 5 classes. He top 5ed all of them. Talk about Ironman!!!
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Originally Posted by Jerm13
Running Late models and Modified's was anywhere from $100 for a local show (run of the mill everyday weekend) to $250 for a $5000 to win just to enter into the race. That didn't include pit passes at $25 a piece ( yes, most of that was for insurance). Pit would rake in 5-7k for the normal weekends and 10-15k easy on the big races.

Last time I went to PNB, I spent $200 just in entries. 150 for the 2 nitros and 50 for the electric. It was the third class that got me the $25 discount

I ran that one just to get extra track time.

That was one of the years that Lutz ran all 5 classes. He top 5ed all of them. Talk about Ironman!!!
I have got to see Lutz do that a few times. I once watched him come from a lap down after a flame out and take the win against some good competition.
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Kinda would like to see an e truggy class. Maybe run e truggy and e buggy on Wednesday or somthin just a thought
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There should be NO E anything at the NITRO CHALLENGE... Now at the LIPO CHALLENGE. absolutely. But I have a genuine disdain for ebuggy so dont mind me.
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Originally Posted by underway
There should be NO E anything at the NITRO CHALLENGE... Now at the LIPO CHALLENGE. absolutely. But I have a genuine disdain for ebuggy so dont mind me.

YUP!!! It's called "NITRO" Challenge for a reason!! Ditch the electric!!
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:44 PM
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Now now let's be easy on the ecars Derrick lol
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If you cut out 5 hours worth of e buggy heats and mains you finish around 10PM instead of 3 AM. just simple math guys. As said before it is the NITRO CHALLENGE. Run only nitro and the problem is fixed.
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The whole event comes to a stop when the E cars come out. Holy boring!
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Dam Frank. Glasses are same color as hair.

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Scrap the 35+ legends and 40+. Change to 35+ and 50+..................
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