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Old 03-01-2017, 05:10 PM   #241
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5: sensorless ESC new roar approved software
This does nothing to equalize motor performance.
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So.... after 7 pages of debate and great jdeas, what's the consensus, Motiv, R1, TSR, Fantom? What's the fastest stock motor, looking for some thing new.
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So.... after 7 pages of debate and great jdeas, what's the consensus, Motiv, R1, TSR, Fantom? What's the fastest stock motor, looking for some thing new.
fastest stock motor is the one run at your club when they don't tech....

look at race results and see whos fast if you want a legal, fast motor.
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Coop runs an R1, outside of that I'm not sure what any of the other guys are running... will have to take a peak this weekend.
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So.... after 7 pages of debate and great jdeas, what's the consensus, Motiv, R1, TSR, Fantom? What's the fastest stock motor, looking for some thing new.
This thread is about the future of stock motors. We're not trying to come to a consensus for what is the best motor to use right now. There are already a few active threads regarding that topic.
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I was obviously kidding... I posted early in this thread, was just trying to be a funny guy, sorry.
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Old 03-01-2017, 05:53 PM   #249
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I was obviously kidding... I posted early in this thread, was just trying to be a funny guy, sorry.
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But a 3000kv 17.5 mc2
Vs a 3000kv 17.5 TSR
Will preform way different at ANY FDR ... Which means if it's open motor you must purchase multiple motors now to have on hand to match the specified fdr which just makes things worse
Not to mention tech headache... I set kV with my motorlizer and yours is now reading it 3100 then test it again and it's 3050... Not able to work .
But guess tech could set every individual motors kV . That will not take long to set sensor deviation
Motor will have higher KV when hotter. I guess I'll try to conduct some test this spring break to test if the method will work.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:21 PM   #251
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Claim rules, handouts, brushed, re-spec the 17.5 motor....you guys can't really be serious. At a national race or maybe a state level series, maybe some of this could be used but not at the numerous tracks around the country wanting to use ROAR guidelines. Listen, FL has the longest running road racing series in the country. We did brushed handouts back in the day. The one complaint I heard a lot from the series staff was the hassle of the logistics itself with hauling that stuff back and forth all over the state. Not to mention storage and so on. Seriously, what's wrong with stock being 25.5? The level playing field is already in place. How bad do you want it?
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BTW, trying to be the fastest guy in any controlled class is going to be expensive because you are constantly trying to buy that last little bit of speed. It's only when you have too much power for the car/track that you don't go spending dollars on that last 1/10th. You have to look to your driving and setup. The flip side of that is that the faster speeds of modified are much harder on tires and other equipment should you have a "board meeting."
Bingo the nature of racing usually the guy in front spends more money though not always the case it's typically how it goes

There is more to it than just the motor you need to know how to gear it to your car and driving. And the better drivers will win no matter what the restrictions I agree with open the esc then power is not an issue you then learn how to tune to put power down the most efficiently and effectively. With all the restrictions and everyone driving nearly identical cars you see them go round and round only when a mistake is made that anything changes
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Really? You think regressing to brushed motors is a viable option because then EVERYONE would, again, have to buy a new motor. Sigh. No thanks. Again, Id quit the hobby.
Have you seen the prices today? Here a 23 turns:
Model car brushed motor Modelcraft Tuning 18924 rpm Turns: 23 from Conrad.com
No ESC of the month, no secret firmwares etc.
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Have you seen the prices today? Here a 23 turns:
Model car brushed motor Modelcraft Tuning 18924 rpm Turns: 23 from Conrad.com
No ESC of the month, no secret firmwares etc.
They don't deliver to North America
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Have you seen the prices today? Here a 23 turns:
Model car brushed motor Modelcraft Tuning 18924 rpm Turns: 23 from Conrad.com
No ESC of the month, no secret firmwares etc.
You clearly missed the many posts where brushed motors require a lot more maintenance, expensive tools to cut the comms etc, have a bunch of parts that wear out quickly etc. They are not cheap to run at peak performance.
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