4LikesTamiya TRF417
10-11-2012, 07:28 AM
#4006
Tech Regular
What is the difference on the new motor mount?
10-11-2012, 09:17 AM
#4007
Tech Master
My friend told me that it is lighter. Although it may be because it doesn't include the centre brace that is missing (he was told by a Tamiya rep at the model show).
10-11-2012, 10:33 AM
#4008
10-11-2012, 11:20 AM
#4010
Honestly, it is part gimmick, part necessity for the worlds.
Typically it is claimed that Emulsion (aeration) shocks promote more traction and handle bumps better.
However, In all the experiments that I did running on-road and offroad, I found the most grip and best bump handling came from soft bladders and drilled shock caps. In the past, when we used to not drill shock caps, then emulsion shocks were better.
I read in several places that Jilles used them for increased traction, since they ran no additives, this probably is the explanation.
Now why is Tamiya offering it like this? It's just the way they have always done it from what I remember. It seems that every so often, when they release their cars, they are replicas that commemorate some big event win. Last big one was the Worlds and this car is equipped with what JG ran. Next version, they might go back to bladders, who knows.
Typically it is claimed that Emulsion (aeration) shocks promote more traction and handle bumps better.
However, In all the experiments that I did running on-road and offroad, I found the most grip and best bump handling came from soft bladders and drilled shock caps. In the past, when we used to not drill shock caps, then emulsion shocks were better.
I read in several places that Jilles used them for increased traction, since they ran no additives, this probably is the explanation.
Now why is Tamiya offering it like this? It's just the way they have always done it from what I remember. It seems that every so often, when they release their cars, they are replicas that commemorate some big event win. Last big one was the Worlds and this car is equipped with what JG ran. Next version, they might go back to bladders, who knows.
10-11-2012, 12:47 PM
#4011
Honestly, it is part gimmick, part necessity for the worlds.
Typically it is claimed that Emulsion (aeration) shocks promote more traction and handle bumps better.
However, In all the experiments that I did running on-road and offroad, I found the most grip and best bump handling came from soft bladders and drilled shock caps. In the past, when we used to not drill shock caps, then emulsion shocks were better.
I read in several places that Jilles used them for increased traction, since they ran no additives, this probably is the explanation.
Now why is Tamiya offering it like this? It's just the way they have always done it from what I remember. It seems that every so often, when they release their cars, they are replicas that commemorate some big event win. Last big one was the Worlds and this car is equipped with what JG ran. Next version, they might go back to bladders, who knows.
Typically it is claimed that Emulsion (aeration) shocks promote more traction and handle bumps better.
However, In all the experiments that I did running on-road and offroad, I found the most grip and best bump handling came from soft bladders and drilled shock caps. In the past, when we used to not drill shock caps, then emulsion shocks were better.
I read in several places that Jilles used them for increased traction, since they ran no additives, this probably is the explanation.
Now why is Tamiya offering it like this? It's just the way they have always done it from what I remember. It seems that every so often, when they release their cars, they are replicas that commemorate some big event win. Last big one was the Worlds and this car is equipped with what JG ran. Next version, they might go back to bladders, who knows.
my rsd6 actuallyvhas too much grip most of the time
10-11-2012, 04:55 PM
#4013
Tech Addict
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http://kentech.blogs.se/ and http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbysho...port/news1.htm for first actual pictures on the TRF417 V5 Premium Package... 
10-11-2012, 09:17 PM
#4014
Hi All,
What do you mean by emulsion shocks? Having a hole in the top cap?
Thanks.
What do you mean by emulsion shocks? Having a hole in the top cap?
Thanks.
10-11-2012, 10:25 PM
#4017
54171 Separate Sus Mounts 1X
54172 Separate Sus Mounts 1XA/1A
54173 Separate Sus Mounts 1XB/1B
54174 Separate Sus Mounts 1XC/1C
54175 Separate Sus Mounts 1XD/1D
10-11-2012, 10:54 PM
#4018
From Craig's blog site (http://tchub.wordpress.com):
54171 Separate Sus Mounts 1X
54172 Separate Sus Mounts 1XA/1A
54173 Separate Sus Mounts 1XB/1B
54174 Separate Sus Mounts 1XC/1C
54175 Separate Sus Mounts 1XD/1D
54171 Separate Sus Mounts 1X
54172 Separate Sus Mounts 1XA/1A
54173 Separate Sus Mounts 1XB/1B
54174 Separate Sus Mounts 1XC/1C
54175 Separate Sus Mounts 1XD/1D
10-12-2012, 12:54 AM
#4020
The 417X manual says 1XA for the rear-front, 1C for the front-rear, so that would mean 54172 & 54174 respectively. Note that the split mounts are 2-in-1 (except for the 1X ones).
Various TRF team setup sheets use different blocks. In boosted 17.5, I run 1 degree less rear toe...