"Ask" Jilles Groskamp Tamiya 416 & 417, Team Orion Motors
09-22-2010, 09:13 PM
#1306
Thanks Gilles
I will do all the things you suggested and thanks for clarifying the paper suggestion, i will definatly give it a go.
I will do all the things you suggested and thanks for clarifying the paper suggestion, i will definatly give it a go.
09-23-2010, 08:15 AM
#1307
Thanks jilles that's what i have been running with ur settings and it makes the car easier to drive
U have also been using the harder sway bar up front which also settles the car down but this may be ovEr kill and be slowing me down
Looking forward to meeting you again at titc
Wayne
U have also been using the harder sway bar up front which also settles the car down but this may be ovEr kill and be slowing me down
Looking forward to meeting you again at titc
Wayne
09-23-2010, 12:56 PM
#1308
Tech Initiate
Hello Jilles,
here my beginning Setup for Carpet Indoor circuit. The most Indoor circuits had close curves.
here my beginning Setup for Carpet Indoor circuit. The most Indoor circuits had close curves.
09-23-2010, 11:15 PM
#1309
@jilles: yeah, lets see ... will surely let you know. i know that's what you were targeting as well. im sure minus the glitches you'd have made 27 easily. 
as for consistency and backmarkers, well .... it's part of it. please let me know about RC City. Am keeping my fingers crossed that TITC will be run there. Reason also why i dint go last year was partly because it was at RC Addict .... just seems to much of a speed track unlike RCS which so perfect for great racing. Will keep in touch ... am hoping things work out with the MTCC that I'm planning for.
as for consistency and backmarkers, well .... it's part of it. please let me know about RC City. Am keeping my fingers crossed that TITC will be run there. Reason also why i dint go last year was partly because it was at RC Addict .... just seems to much of a speed track unlike RCS which so perfect for great racing. Will keep in touch ... am hoping things work out with the MTCC that I'm planning for.
09-24-2010, 03:20 AM
#1310
Tech Initiate
Thanks Gilles
I follow your suggestion to use the LRP additive today. It's Great!
I follow your suggestion to use the LRP additive today. It's Great!
09-30-2010, 10:04 AM
#1311
10-01-2010, 06:40 AM
#1313
That is correct,
speedtech has some company that makes them.
I am trying to find a local worshop that can make
about 10 pieces for me.
speedtech has some company that makes them.
I am trying to find a local worshop that can make
about 10 pieces for me.
10-03-2010, 08:49 AM
#1314
Tech Initiate
Hello Jilles,
I have some questions of rear gear diff:
1. What volume did you fill the oil into the gear diff case in 2010 WC?
2. Which viscosity of the oil did you use in the other races after the 2010 WC? And how about the oil volume in these races?
3. I have no idea of the oil volume in the gear diff case. Different volume with different viscosity oil shows different performance. Would you please give some advice or experience of it?
Thank you.
I have some questions of rear gear diff:
1. What volume did you fill the oil into the gear diff case in 2010 WC?
2. Which viscosity of the oil did you use in the other races after the 2010 WC? And how about the oil volume in these races?
3. I have no idea of the oil volume in the gear diff case. Different volume with different viscosity oil shows different performance. Would you please give some advice or experience of it?
Thank you.
10-10-2010, 08:34 AM
#1315
- Gerry
Let's see what happens with the new track. In Thailand they can finish things very fast if everything is there. But I really hope the TITC will be there as it will be more challenging track then RC Addict ("highway")!
You should be able to make the 27 laps, your car was fast enough, little more consistant and not too many backmarkers, haha! Good luck saterday and let me know how things went!
Jilles
Let's see what happens with the new track. In Thailand they can finish things very fast if everything is there. But I really hope the TITC will be there as it will be more challenging track then RC Addict ("highway")!
You should be able to make the 27 laps, your car was fast enough, little more consistant and not too many backmarkers, haha! Good luck saterday and let me know how things went!
Jilles
so did JP last saturday! even i was shocked! 
10-18-2010, 07:46 AM
#1316
Tech Apprentice
Hi Jilles could you pls help me. I recently bought the x lipo con and my car is in good condition can I convert to 417 and which parts will I need, if not which parts will fit from the 417. Thanks
10-18-2010, 11:26 AM
#1317
New Bottom Deck
New Top Deck
New Shock Towers
New Bulkeads
New One Piece Motor Mount
New Centre Pulleys and Spur Adaptor
10-19-2010, 02:56 AM
#1318
Tech Apprentice
Hey Skitee thanks for stuffing up my day.........
LoL.That really sucks man my 416x is still in great shape. Thinking off doing what ever I can with out replacing things like chassis and then make the change later in next year.I don't know??
10-21-2010, 06:47 PM
#1319
- Wayne
Good to hear you like the settings.
I have starting to use slightly lighter oil here in Thailand, suggestion from Atsushi and with little harder swaybars it works very well.
- Kiloolli
I see your set-up and looks not bad. You can try little lighter oil, 450.
I also see you use geardiff front and rear. I suggest spool if you want more steering in short corners.
-srw_g
At the worlds we all use 1000W oil. At all other races we use 1000W as well.
We tested harder but performance is worse. If you go lighter the diff leak little bit so 1000W is still best compromise.
- Gerry
That is amazing! Well done! I quess you guys had really good track condition or we will see some Filipino's at the next Worlds in the A-main!!
Really a shame I can't come next month, I'm sure it will be a nice race!
Keep in touch!
- charl mac
All parts of the 417 will fit on the new Lipo chassis. You might want to have the 19T pulli, the motormount and the new steering bridge.
But I'm sure you will keep up with the competition with your current 416X!!
Jilles
Good to hear you like the settings.
I have starting to use slightly lighter oil here in Thailand, suggestion from Atsushi and with little harder swaybars it works very well.
- Kiloolli
I see your set-up and looks not bad. You can try little lighter oil, 450.
I also see you use geardiff front and rear. I suggest spool if you want more steering in short corners.
-srw_g
At the worlds we all use 1000W oil. At all other races we use 1000W as well.
We tested harder but performance is worse. If you go lighter the diff leak little bit so 1000W is still best compromise.
- Gerry
That is amazing! Well done! I quess you guys had really good track condition or we will see some Filipino's at the next Worlds in the A-main!!
Really a shame I can't come next month, I'm sure it will be a nice race!
Keep in touch!
- charl mac
All parts of the 417 will fit on the new Lipo chassis. You might want to have the 19T pulli, the motormount and the new steering bridge.
But I'm sure you will keep up with the competition with your current 416X!!
Jilles
10-21-2010, 09:28 PM
#1320
Thanks jilles
But it meant to say I was using a harder swaybar good to hear you also like it
Maybe now mcprez will listen to me he he
But it meant to say I was using a harder swaybar good to hear you also like it
Maybe now mcprez will listen to me he he