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Old 11-21-2004, 06:30 AM   #8806
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Which shock oil is recommended 2 run on asphalt? wat is the weight of the stock shock oil?
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:37 AM   #8807
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"While both are really good cars, my opinion is that you took a step down changing from an Xray to HPI. Sort of like going from a Cadillac to a Buick."

Is this a pathetic troll attempt, or are you that easily fooled?
umm just cuz the xray is $$ doesnt make it better. same goes for 415

realistically at the top level xray is below tamiya and hpi.

dont get me wrong xray is VERY nice in all build attributes.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:42 AM   #8808
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umm just cuz the xray is $$ doesnt make it better. same goes for 415

realistically at the top level xray is below tamiya and hpi.

dont get me wrong xray is VERY nice in all build attributes.
saying that xray is below tamiya and hpi is just your personal opinion

In my opinion xray is right up there with tamiya. You open both these kits and the craftsmanship is just phenomenal. There is a reason why these kits are more $$$ because they are simply beautiful.
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:51 PM   #8809
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umm just cuz the xray is $$ doesnt make it better. same goes for 415

realistically at the top level xray is below tamiya and hpi.

dont get me wrong xray is VERY nice in all build attributes.
I am presently running the Pro-4 and also have the Xray FT, Tamiya Evo-4 and a TB-02 with all the Evo-3 upgrades. All are great cars but you have to be on crack if you would put an X-ray below those chassis. Look at all the ways you can change setups without having to remove a bunch of parts and installing others. If you want the absolute best in adjustability you should go with an Xray they are by far tops. BUT JUST REMEMBER, JUST BECAUSE THE CAR IS GREAT YOU STILL HAVE TO KNOW NOW TO SET UP A CAR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. A good driver with a cheap car will ususally always out perform a novice with all the top of the line equipment. I like my Pro-4 now that I have finally got all the parts that should have been in the kit when I bought it. The only thing that the other car have over it is that when you purchase the other chassis kits they come with everything and with the Pro4 you have to buy all the parts separatly to tune it for your driving tastes.
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:57 PM   #8810
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xray cars cannot be that bad i think some one said they had the most cars in the top 20 but hpi can't be bad either finishing 2nd and 3rd.

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well, as a current owner of a pro 4, evo 3 and 4, 415, 414, Xray evo2, and a couple of cudas...

i do like the Xray, but the lack of fine adjustments of the rollcenters surprises me... you can only use the holes predrilled in the chassis. by using the other manufacturers setup, they are infinitely adjustable by however small shim you use.

granted, i dont think that i can fully utilize all the benefits...!

they are all excellent cars, fully capable of winning. i wouldnt say that any car is necessarily above or below, just drive what YOU like, and let 'em all eat cake...
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Well said!
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:00 PM   #8813
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i wasnt dissing xray, i was just saying at the TOP LEVEL their performance is generally less than hpi/tamiya. that is that hara / reinhard + the rest of their teams, do extremely well in a-mains, and making a-mains.

as chazz says xray is able to put a lot of cars high up (top20).

and duh xray has the nicest car based on quality of parts. their spring steel and aluminum are top notch.



for the typical race the car that is going to be the fastest is the car they can get the most help with.

and if you dont need help with your car in order to be fast, then sponsorship determines what car you drive! (more than likely).
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:19 PM   #8814
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Sweet n sour, you can use a 75 tooth spur
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:30 PM   #8815
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floodo1,You race at cycle art??
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:35 PM   #8816
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saying that xray is below tamiya and hpi is just your personal opinion

In my opinion xray is right up there with tamiya. You open both these kits and the craftsmanship is just phenomenal. There is a reason why these kits are more $$$ because they are simply beautiful.
Agree!

About Tamiya/HPI doing "extremely well in a-mains, and making a-mains" is a little due to the drivers they have... they have world champs on their team so that's why they are in the A mains more than the lesser experienced teams...
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:04 PM   #8817
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Hi, Whats the part # for the diff? Cant find on the HPI site. Thanks
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:20 PM   #8818
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same number as the rear diff
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:53 PM   #8819
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75141, Is that correct? Thx
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:20 PM   #8820
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does anyone know when the hpi spools will be available?
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