Should old people with Skills be Forced out of Racing ROAR Masters.
07-03-2007, 10:35 AM
#61
Actually there have been events where the top three in Masters were actually faster than the top 3 in STOCK!! Let's see, Eli Ezrow, Chuck Lonergan, Frank Calandra, Bob VanWagner, Skip Starkey, Jim Piersol, Tom Esposito. Damn you're right, no real competition there. 
07-03-2007, 10:37 AM
#63
People can do whatever they want but, a whole room full of masters trophies doesn't equal one regular trophy.
People can continue to race the watered down classes and dominate, but they have to live with knowing that they avoided the real competition.
When I race I dont like winning only casue the fast guys arent racing my class.
People can continue to race the watered down classes and dominate, but they have to live with knowing that they avoided the real competition.
When I race I dont like winning only casue the fast guys arent racing my class.
You only have race and win a Master`s ,then say that....
Its not a watered down class and it has been part of the National program for decades as well..
07-03-2007, 10:39 AM
#64
Tech Master
Show me the results. I would bet you can't. And if that is the case then why are they racing the "Old Guy" class? I dont see Barry Bonds asking for a masters baseball class. At the age of 40 your body is not all shriveled up and deformed. There are probably 100 players in every sport including hockey that are over 40. Masters class is a cop out plain and simple. People would rather dominate masters than race for their trophy in stock.
RC on Steroids. Now that's funny
Never see the Nascar guys being told they can't run Busch series so why would it matter in the RC world?
07-03-2007, 10:43 AM
#65
Show me the results. I would bet you can't. And if that is the case then why are they racing the "Old Guy" class? I dont see Barry Bonds asking for a masters baseball class. At the age of 40 your body is not all shriveled up and deformed. There are probably 100 players in every sport including hockey that are over 40. Masters class is a cop out plain and simple. People would rather dominate masters than race for their trophy in stock.
It's the truth, and I'm not defending the class because I run it, I've got quite a few years left before I get to that lofty plateau
07-03-2007, 10:47 AM
#66
07-03-2007, 10:59 AM
#67
I'm by no means saying anyone should be forced out of anything. It's your money spend it how you like. What I am saying is I WOULD NEVER race a class that I knew I would win every year just to get the trophy.
Oh and Cypress, without hard results your claims are pointless. Here's a little story for you. I'm golfing its starts to rain hard. We move to a shelter. A man pulls up in a cart by himself and my friend asks the guy how hes hitting the ball. That man says I eagled 2 holes of the first 10. I said, I eagle alot of holes when I golf myself too.
Picture this 20 years from now Tiger Woods is still at the top of his game, won 4 of the last 5 tournaments. Turns 50 years old. Does he move to the Senior tour. NO casue why move up and play something noone cares about when you can still compete with men at the top of their game.
Lets just make a class for every age so we can have 50 winners noone cares about.
Oh and Cypress, without hard results your claims are pointless. Here's a little story for you. I'm golfing its starts to rain hard. We move to a shelter. A man pulls up in a cart by himself and my friend asks the guy how hes hitting the ball. That man says I eagled 2 holes of the first 10. I said, I eagle alot of holes when I golf myself too.
Picture this 20 years from now Tiger Woods is still at the top of his game, won 4 of the last 5 tournaments. Turns 50 years old. Does he move to the Senior tour. NO casue why move up and play something noone cares about when you can still compete with men at the top of their game.
Lets just make a class for every age so we can have 50 winners noone cares about.
Last edited by Mr. Mxyzptlk; 07-03-2007 at 11:16 AM.
07-03-2007, 11:02 AM
#68
Not sure what "Mr. Mxyzptlk" beef with Masters is and not really sure that I care! 
I didn't create the class, just old enough to run it though. It's a real bitch when someone is good at something and some joker has to negate the talent! Oh well, carry on fellow racer. I'm sure when you get old enough, you may want in on the fun!
I didn't create the class, just old enough to run it though. It's a real bitch when someone is good at something and some joker has to negate the talent! Oh well, carry on fellow racer. I'm sure when you get old enough, you may want in on the fun!
07-03-2007, 11:10 AM
#69
Not sure what "Mr. Mxyzptlk" beef with Masters is and not really sure that I care! I didn't create the class, just old enough to run it though. It's a real bitch when someone is good at something and some joker has to negate the talent! Oh well, carry on fellow racer. I'm sure when you get old enough, you may want in on the fun!
I didn't create the class, just old enough to run it though. It's a real bitch when someone is good at something and some joker has to negate the talent! Oh well, carry on fellow racer. I'm sure when you get old enough, you may want in on the fun!...are you running the paved nats?
07-03-2007, 11:31 AM
#70
I have no problem with masters I actually think it's a great idea if used properly. Ya I know the age limit is the only real decider if you can run masters or not. But, another factor should be personal pride. I don't dislike the masters class at all. I dislike the people that only run masters casue they can win easily. Its an old school term called cherry picking. You dont see Professional card players entering your local firehall tournaments for 10 dollars casue a real competitor likes to play/race with the best not the people that you know you can beat with one eye closed. Its similar to "pro" racers running stock at a local level, whats the point. This is my last post on this subject its not worth my fingers getting sore over what I guess they themselves consider old farts.
Too many have a sourpuss attitude about this stuff. No wonder we have trouble filling the ranks.
:lol :
07-03-2007, 12:17 PM
#74
I'm by no means saying anyone should be forced out of anything. It's your money spend it how you like. What I am saying is I WOULD NEVER race a class that I knew I would win every year just to get the trophy.
Oh and Cypress, without hard results your claims are pointless. Here's a little story for you. I'm golfing its starts to rain hard. We move to a shelter. A man pulls up in a cart by himself and my friend asks the guy how hes hitting the ball. That man says I eagled 2 holes of the first 10. I said, I eagle alot of holes when I golf myself too.
Picture this 20 years from now Tiger Woods is still at the top of his game, won 4 of the last 5 tournaments. Turns 50 years old. Does he move to the Senior tour. NO casue why move up and play something noone cares about when you can still compete with men at the top of their game.
Lets just make a class for every age so we can have 50 winners noone cares about.
Oh and Cypress, without hard results your claims are pointless. Here's a little story for you. I'm golfing its starts to rain hard. We move to a shelter. A man pulls up in a cart by himself and my friend asks the guy how hes hitting the ball. That man says I eagled 2 holes of the first 10. I said, I eagle alot of holes when I golf myself too.
Picture this 20 years from now Tiger Woods is still at the top of his game, won 4 of the last 5 tournaments. Turns 50 years old. Does he move to the Senior tour. NO casue why move up and play something noone cares about when you can still compete with men at the top of their game.
Lets just make a class for every age so we can have 50 winners noone cares about.
07-03-2007, 01:18 PM
#75
Tech Master
Yeah Ian... I second that!!