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Cheaters Suck.
MOTOR OF MONTH NO MORE!!!
3.5mm MALE bullet connectors are REQUIRED
at all CanAm races

CanAm Motor & Transmission Specs
USGT
ORCA------------4.40min FDR Indoors-------------169g

STOCK TC
TEAM POWERS------5.40 min FDR Indoors-----------------173g

SUPER STOCK TC
SCORPION-----6.20 min FDR Indoor--------------------170g

CanAm Stock 1/12th
TEAM SCREAM-------------OPEN-----------------------160g

CanAm Super Stock 1/12th
TEAM SCREAM-----------35T/88T-----------------------160g

CanAm F1
SCORPION-----------------28T/92T-----------------------170g

CanAm WGTR
ORCA---------------------36T/92T-----------------------169g


TC/USGT Likely Spur/Pinion Combinations
USGT
1.7 Internal
96/37 => 4.411 FDR
101/39 => 4.403 FDR

1.80 Internal
93/38 => 4.405 FDR
98/40 => 4.410 FDR

1.85 Internal
100/42 => 4.405 FDR

1.9 Internal
95/41 => 4.402 FDR
102/44 => 4.405 FDR

2.0 Internal
99/45 => 4.400 FDR

STOCK TC INDOOR
1.7 Internal
102/32 => 5.419 FDR
105/33 => 5.409 FDR
108/34 => 5.400 FDR

1.80 Internal
99/33 => 5.400FDR
102/34 => 5
.400 FDR
105/35 => 5
.400 FDR
108/36 => 5
.400 FDR
111/37 => 5
.400 FDR

1.85 Internal
108/37 => 5.400 FDR
111/38 => 5.404 FDR
114/39 => 5.408 FDR

1.9 Internal
108/38 => 5.400 FDR
111/39 => 5.408 FDR

2.0 Internal
92/34 => 5.412 FDR
100/37 => 5.405 FDR
108/40 => 5.400 FDR

SUPER STOCK TC INDOOR
1.7 Internal

106/29 => 6.214 FDR
110/30 => 6.233 FDR

1.80 Internal
100/29 => 6.207 FDR
107/31 => 6.213 FDR
114/33 => 6.218 FDR

1.85 Internal
104/31 => 6.206 FDR
114/34 => 6.203 FDR

1.9 Internal
98/30 => 6.207 FDR
108/33 => 6.218 FDR
111/34 => 6.203 FDR

2.0 Internal
112/36 => 6.222 FDR

NB: Serpent Project 4X was checked and due to the O.D. of the center pulley the internal is not exactly 2.000. Testing revealed it is closer to 2.005. For Serpent Cars ONLY, the drivers who wish to be as close as possible to the Minimum FDR can use the following spur/pinion combinations: SS TC => 99/32; Stock TC => 97/36; USGT => 101/46.

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Old 08-16-2018, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
on a bright side --*snip*. he noted how Can-Am had gotten him interested in coming back out to race *snip* filling the pits IS the key motivator here.
That's awesome. I hope it works out.

And please, don't take my posts as "ya'll suck" or "I won't do can-am because...." :-) I think Can-Am is doing the right thing here.
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Originally Posted by Nerobro
That's awesome. I hope it works out.

And please, don't take my posts as "ya'll suck" or "I won't do can-am because...." :-) I think Can-Am is doing the right thing here.
My post from Facebook.....

I’m not singling anyone out but I can’t believe the push back on this. Are people that stubborn to not give this new set of rules a chance? Obviously, there are issues right now with certain motors and their legality. This group has come up with a fair solution so that everyone will be assured equal power. You’ll never have to wonder “why did I get motored down the backstretch”. You’ll know it’s because of your setup and/or driving. I’m certainly not one of the fast guys and I do have some (minor) concerns about how this will all play out. You know what though, I’m willing to give it a shot. No one else seems to be stepping up with a solution. I truly hope it brings new people to the hobby and brings back people who may have left because of the motor wars/motor of the month. Again, this is not directed at any one person and I certainly don’t want to start a Facebook fight – just giving my two cents.
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Well since you quoted me...

Originally Posted by dave-man
I’m not singling anyone out but I can’t believe the push back on this.
Which push back are you talking about? The "we don't want handout motors" or "you're doing connectors wrong"?

I've seen lots of people do "this will never work" or "tracks will never sign up" and "motor manufacturers will tell you to pound sand" and "I like my motor" and "it's going to be to expensive" and "People are to entrenched and won't change" ... Can-Am as an organization has done it. Are doing it. Clearly, the people who are screaming it can't be done, are mostly wrong. Time will tell if they're entirely wrong.

"You're doing connectors wrong." I'll stand by, I still think I'm right, and I've got a whole bunch of proof to support it. The reasoning for putting the female sockets on the motors is weak. But it is Can-Am's playground, and I want them to be successful. Eventually I want to play on that playground too, so going "I'm not going to race with you guys" is a hollow threat. If that's the choice they're making, I'll just have to keep some rubber caps around to put on my ESC leads when I pull my motor. Maybe buy a few dozen extra to give away or sell to other racers as ESC condoms. I sure can find an upside to this. Heck, maybe Can-Am can sell them under a house label. (I'm hinting that Can-Am should do it, and beat me to it...)
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Nerobro.. that is your idea. And the name will sell to RC guys. Happy to sport some esc wire condoms that your sell.
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Originally Posted by Nerobro
Well since you quoted me...
I was specifically replying to your post saying it was awesome that a racer came back and that Can-Am is doing the right thing.

Me quoting you had nothing to do with connectors. I feel the guys behind Can-Am have enough experience and testing to rationalize the decisions they've made. I suppose we'll all find out soon enough.

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The ETS series has been using handouts for years now. They use the plugs in the same configuration that Can-Am is set to use. ETS has a lot of experience using handouts. If this configuration was excessively dangerous or problematic I'm sure it would have already been addressed by the experts involved with ETS.
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Originally Posted by ShaunMac
The ETS series has been using handouts for years now. They use the plugs in the same configuration that Can-Am is set to use. ETS has a lot of experience using handouts. If this configuration was excessively dangerous or problematic I'm sure it would have already been addressed by the experts involved with ETS.
honnestly it wasnt ever discussed what ets uses. But you are correct in F1 they DO put MALE 3.5mm on ESC wires . funny i never hear of those guys complaining about it on here . (not that all of you are )
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Originally Posted by ShaunMac
The ETS series has been using handouts for years now. They use the plugs in the same configuration that Can-Am is set to use. ETS has a lot of experience using handouts. If this configuration was excessively dangerous or problematic I'm sure it would have already been addressed by the experts involved with ETS.
"Excessive" naa, just expensive when it DOES mess up. Last time I was at the track, two ESCs got blown up. In a seperate earlier event the guy I sit across the table from, blew up an ESC from shorting motor leads. This stuff does happen. Putting the females on the ESC side, means you're a lot less likely to have an accident leading to a blown ESC. *shrugs* Market for me to exploit. :-)
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Then buy 3 double males and still use females on your speedo, seems like a lot of bitchin over nothing.
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I think until one knows if the Can-Am series will be offered in their area, I would not be too concerned about what connectors are being used.
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Ok. Everyone knows I am not a big fan of this series as it currently sits, and have tremendous reservations about it. BUT... the motor plug thing is one area that I do agree with. If this is going to work, this is a must. And as far as the what side the male or female side is on is not a big deal. I understand why they went the way they did. And if you are worried about shorting you’re ESC while running, take batter care of your plugs and make sure they fit the motor tight before running that day. If they are tight, they have no more chance of shorting out than a soldered motor, or any more chance of your battery leads coming out. If you are worried about shorting in the pits, why are you doing anything with the ESC wiring with the battery plugged in. Thats electrical 101. Disconnect power before doing anything.
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Ok. Everyone knows I am not a big fan of this series as it currently sits, and have tremendous reservations about it. BUT... the motor plug thing is one area that I do agree with. If this is going to work, this is a must. And as far as the what side the male or female side is on is not a big deal. I understand why they went the way they did. And if you are worried about shorting you’re ESC while running, take batter care of your plugs and make sure they fit the motor tight before running that day. If they are tight, they have no more chance of shorting out than a soldered motor, or any more chance of your battery leads coming out. If you are worried about shorting in the pits, why are you doing anything with the ESC wiring with the battery plugged in. Thats electrical 101. Disconnect power before doing anything.
Correct, and I will go as far as disconnecting the battery of any car that marshalls put aside while the race is still live: you don't want a car fire ruining the precious carpet....
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Can somebody please post a couple of photos of the motor connectors that are going to be used for the CanAm series races? I can’t even imagine why there needs to be so much fuss about them, but i’d sure like to see what they look like once installed nicely on a 1/12th scale car (where body clearance above the motor wires can be pretty limited)
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