TLR 22 Racing Buggy Thread
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How tight are you guys running your slipper? Right now my input shaft is about 1.9mm out of the nut. Yes I know how that sounds. I can also spin the tires anywhere, even on carpet.
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Depends on track conditions .
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That sounds very tight if you can spin the tires on carpet. Loosen it and set it to your surface, it's hard to give a measurement and say it's good. All the slipper springs are going to be slightly different and more importantly every surface, tire, motor, and drive are going to be different and require a slightly different setting. A good starting point for a looser track is to put it on the straight, hammer the throttle and have the slipper slip for the first foot the car travels (listen for it). If it's a very high grip track then maybe you want it so the car will wheely only when you hit the throttle from a standstill and not if you have any slight bit of forward momentum. Over time I've learned how big of a difference slipper settings can make.
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I thought the slipper was just to protect the drivetrain, i know someone has stated this before. I would imagine you are going to smoke your slipper if you are setting it very loose for a slippery track and possibly heat your motor up. I set my slipper by holding the rear tires and blipping the throttle and setting it so the tires lift about 2-3 inches off the ground.
Dirt medium size. Tires I foind HB megabites work alright. Flipouts too. Mod 8.5 right now I'm on a DE setup. 25/5 up front. Caster 1.5 down, 2mm inside 1mm outside, 1
Did 1e in rear trying to slow it down. 2Inside 2outside on rear.
Real dust, smooth track. Looking to get it to push to see if I can come out the corners quicker.right now it'll over. Other than that I'm good.
Thanks for the help
Did 1e in rear trying to slow it down. 2Inside 2outside on rear.
Real dust, smooth track. Looking to get it to push to see if I can come out the corners quicker.right now it'll over. Other than that I'm good.
Thanks for the help
Lower anti squat I am at 1*
Do the TLR raise the trans 1mm mod
I also put 3/4 oz of weight above the trans behind the tower
I also run inside on rear arm and inside on tower with White spring
Also make sure your shocks are soft enough I am running small hole piston (I forget if that is the 54 or 56) with 20wt losi oil rear
Also I am running 24.75 rear ride height and 25 front
Front shocks middle middle stock spring
Last try other front tires I run JC groovys and they seem to work great with a bit of wear I tried a tread type tire yesturday the losi taper pin and it had too much steering it was a bit too sensitive and pulled the car around more than I liked
My car used to have the same issue as you I think the trans mod and anti squat mod really helped the thing I really like about the anti squat is that if the rear does start to loose traction it is alot easier to power through rather than loop out.
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Yes , the slipper is for protecting the drive train , mainly the diff . Setting it to slip before the diff slips as well as to the track is important . Setting to slip one foot is not going cause the motor to heat up the motor . Slipping more than that can .
The whole holding tire method is incorrect IMO and only setting to protect the slipper . Set it to the track , will be set tighter for high grip and looser for low grip .
The whole holding tire method is incorrect IMO and only setting to protect the slipper . Set it to the track , will be set tighter for high grip and looser for low grip .
I thought the slipper was just to protect the drivetrain, i know someone has stated this before. I would imagine you are going to smoke your slipper if you are setting it very loose for a slippery track and possibly heat your motor up. I set my slipper by holding the rear tires and blipping the throttle and setting it so the tires lift about 2-3 inches off the ground.
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A few things that helped me with my setup for better rear bite on a similar track is
Lower anti squat I am at 1*
Do the TLR raise the trans 1mm mod
I also put 3/4 oz of weight above the trans behind the tower
I also run inside on rear arm and inside on tower with White spring
Also make sure your shocks are soft enough I am running small hole piston (I forget if that is the 54 or 56) with 20wt losi oil rear
Also I am running 24.75 rear ride height and 25 front
Front shocks middle middle stock spring
Last try other front tires I run JC groovys and they seem to work great with a bit of wear I tried a tread type tire yesturday the losi taper pin and it had too much steering it was a bit too sensitive and pulled the car around more than I liked
My car used to have the same issue as you I think the trans mod and anti squat mod really helped the thing I really like about the anti squat is that if the rear does start to loose traction it is alot easier to power through rather than loop out.
Lower anti squat I am at 1*
Do the TLR raise the trans 1mm mod
I also put 3/4 oz of weight above the trans behind the tower
I also run inside on rear arm and inside on tower with White spring
Also make sure your shocks are soft enough I am running small hole piston (I forget if that is the 54 or 56) with 20wt losi oil rear
Also I am running 24.75 rear ride height and 25 front
Front shocks middle middle stock spring
Last try other front tires I run JC groovys and they seem to work great with a bit of wear I tried a tread type tire yesturday the losi taper pin and it had too much steering it was a bit too sensitive and pulled the car around more than I liked
My car used to have the same issue as you I think the trans mod and anti squat mod really helped the thing I really like about the anti squat is that if the rear does start to loose traction it is alot easier to power through rather than loop out.
Cool, I will start with the Tran mod.
Thanks guys. Basically I am looking for a safe start point. I'll probably start a little loose and tighten it up from there. If I can spin the tires I should be good, and I'll use my current limiter and throttle curve from there.
FYI - My Reedy Race setup is up on TLRacing.com
http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Fil...Reedy_Race.pdf
http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Fil...Reedy_Race.pdf
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I think its just due to the amount of tuning that folks do to the car due to all the adjust ability options. I just put $125 of upgraded parts on the car but none of them were really needed due to something cryonicly breaking. They are just stuff I though would help balance out strength and weight placement a bit. Its a fun car out of the box!
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I think its just due to the amount of tuning that folks do to the car due to all the adjust ability options. I just put $125 of upgraded parts on the car but none of them were really needed due to something cryonicly breaking. They are just stuff I though would help balance out strength and weight placement a bit. Its a fun car out of the box!
Last edited by drs92; 02-07-2012 at 06:57 PM.